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The Secrets Of Alchemy with Sarif Bey and Billy Carson
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All right, what's going on? Billy Carson here, aka Forbidden Knowledge. We are live on many platforms right now. We have our great guest back, Sharif Bay. What's going on, brother? How are you doing? I'm good, brother, man. Glad to be back. Good to see you, brother. Yeah, man. Good to have you back, man. I know it's been a long time coming. You came on the podcast about maybe a year and a half ago, now maybe two almost. About a year and a half. Yep. Yeah, yeah. That was here at the studios, and that podcast did phenomenal numbers, phenomenal. And um, you know, we're overdue for having a second one. We're virtual right now, but listen, the people want the knowledge, so we're going to give them the knowledge, man. Absolutely, brother.
SPEAKER_02Absolutely. That's right, brother.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, absolutely. And so for people who might be seeing you just for the first time, just tell everyone a little bit about yourself.
SPEAKER_02Sure, sure. You know, my name is Sharif Anahil Bay. I um I wear a lot of hats. Um, um, by profession, I'm a lifelong martial arts martial artist and martial arts instructor. Uh, that's what I do professionally. In addition to that, we do a ton of community work, um, gang intervention, uh, political and civic engagement as well. Um, I serve as the national press secretary for the Moorish Science Temple of America, Incorporated, under the leadership of Brother R. Jones Bay and his assistant A. Hopkins Bay. I also am the grand cheik of a local subordinate temple for the organization in Syracuse, New York. That's where I'm located in Syracuse, New York. Um, I'm a researcher, long time researcher, um, a founding member of a uh prominent Moorish American research team called Ali's Men. And brother, I'm I'm in many respects, you know, I'm in your shadow chasing, you know, you know, chasing your direction, brother. Man, you provide a pristine example of what you know of what we what I would like to do research-wise. You know, we we want to serve, we want to serve, man. There's power in service.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, thank you. I appreciate man. I appreciate it. And by the way, everyone in the live chat, welcome to this episode of Forbidden House Podcast. Make sure y'all click that like button. Please make sure you share this video. We're gonna go deep tonight. We're gonna be talking about the secrets of alchemy. And also, uh, the brother also has a great retreat coming up. I'm dropping it in the live chat again. It's also in the caption of this video. Yes. So once you hear some more about what he has to say, you might want to make a decision to go ahead and click that link and register for that retreat. It's a limited space retreat. In other words, it's not two, three hundred people. No, we're talking about maybe 20, 30 people max. So yeah, you want to be involved in that, you got to click that link and get registered ASAP.
SPEAKER_02To that point, you know, one of the things I I missed to speak about. I'm the founder of a um of an institute we call the Sagala um research or the Sagala Institute for Bioenergetic Transhumanism. You know, what we mean by bioenergetic transhumanism is when you hear the term transhumanism, you know, generally you're thinking of cybernetic interface, you know, machines and humanity. We believe that the human organism is the tech, the human organism is the tech. We don't necessarily don't need you know, gadgetry and a gadgetry interface. You you know what I mean? We need to learn how to be more human, yeah. Yes, sir.
SPEAKER_00Absolutely, I agree a thousand percent, man.
SPEAKER_02Yes, sir.
SPEAKER_00Now, let's talk a little about what are some of the origins that you know about alchemy.
SPEAKER_02Oh wow, alchemy is an ancient, ancient technology, you know, a big part of our gap in understanding of the term alchemy and our tendency to call it uh a pseudoscience is the psychology, then the psychological narrative and the social narrative we were brought up under. Yeah, we to we were taught to believe that time moves linearly, and therefore the present state of advancement that humanity is at now is the first time we've ever been this far. You know what I mean? Yeah, and so um alchemy as it comes to us today is a remnant of an earlier advanced age, an earlier cycle age where we were at least as advanced, if not more advanced than we are now. You know, and so alchemy very simply means the art and science of transmutation. It is both an art and a science. Why? Here's an example to explain it. There's the science of legal litigation, there's the art of being a good litigator, you know. So art implies skillful use of the science, right? You right, yes, sir. So it's it, you know, it's the art of transmutation going from the base to the noble, and it's very practical in principle. If you want the beach body for spring, but you got the dad body in the winter, you go through a process of transmutation to achieve the beach body because all you have to work with is the dad body, you have to break that body down, which is the exercise that's catabolic. You break that down and then you rebuild it into the new body.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, yeah, facts, facts, yes, sir. Absolutely. And by the way, I know I just want to address something because I know a lot of people are asking in the live chat. You know, David Wilcock transitioned uh yesterday. Yes. Um, so shout out to David Wilcock. Um, I didn't have anything bad or any any bad experiences with him, you know. Some people had gray areas, or um, but you know, overall, he he put a lot of work into the community. Um, he put a lot of effort into the community. And uh, you know, uh, and um I had a chance to work with him on several TV shows, several uh conferences that I spoke at and so forth. Uh, he was there. The last time I saw him, I think, was in Washington, D.C. when I spoke at the Grand Mall or spoke in front of the um uh uh right in front of the uh the obelisk out there. Ah, nice. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That was several years ago. But you know, hey man, shout out to you know, everyone, you know, it's it's a you know, we keep having a lot of transitions recently. Nick Pope, you know, uh David Wilcox. There's been a lot of people that have been uh transitioning recently, you know, it's just a cycle that we're going through, you know. Yes, it is. And um, you know, rest in power. Yep. Yeah, his energy is just transformed. And uh I'm pretty sure he'll come back and uh, you know, he'll come back and do some do some some other things. I don't think that he was nefariously killed, just my personal opinion. I could be wrong, but right I do know that from looking at some of the evidence of the um what was released, you know, the 911 call, uh you know, the um the weapon found, unfortunately, that seems as if he took his life. Yes. And um just knowing from what I knew of him back then, he was he was struggling with a few things. And then recently he was struggling with even more things.
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SPEAKER_00And so I'm not saying that it's official that I know anything about whether he did it or not. Of course, that's the official statement. But hopefully we see some body cam footage maybe of uh some of the police to see the state of the situation as they entered into the house. Yes, sir. But they they only arrived there because of the 911 call. Right, right, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, you know, even going back to what I was saying about you know, the the the way our minds in the west of it has been socialized. Even we we think of death in in a way that, you know, to be put it bluntly, is incorrect. You know, it's incorrect, you know, and so we see death as an end instead of death as a doorway. Yeah, you know, and and and and um so we're we're in the position. I don't want to jump ahead, but we're in a position, like you mentioned, we're in a shift globally, yeah, you know, and that shift involves a number of things, it also involves the way we think, and it's forcing the world to think different. Yeah, we need to start the process of rethinking how we see death as well, you know, and so and and this and you know the whole situation with with our with with with David Wilcott gives us an opportunity to exercise that, you know. If man is not the flesh, right, then the passing of a man from flesh is no different from you disrobing at night to go to sleep. Yeah, we don't have a funeral when that happens. You see what I'm saying? We don't mourn when that happens, yeah, you know.
SPEAKER_00So that's I just celebrate the positive, positive things that I know that he accomplished, a positive impact he had on people's lives. You know, I just stay focused. Hey, this these are the positive things that I for a fact know uh that he did. You know, if there's anything that's not positive, well, every single person on this planet has done something that's not positive at some point in time. So I just focus on the positivity and the things that he did that were um that people felt uplifted, they felt inspired. Um, you know, absolutely. Uh they felt like um he enlightened them in some kind of way or helped them reach some some level of understanding about life and what it is. And you're right, it's just a it's a transformation. Um, you know, I died back in 2024 for 15 minutes in the hospital. Um yes, you did. And uh when I say it's a it's a it's like literally I was there in the bed, and the next instantaneous moment, I was in this other place. It wasn't like I had to ease my way in. I was here, then I was there. Just like that. Just like that. Isn't that something? It was amazing. I like I said, I knew that I had a body because I could see my hands and my feet.
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SPEAKER_00Yeah, and so I did have a body, which is interesting because you know, in the in the book of Revelations, yes, uh, in the Bible, it says that it's something very interesting that's hardly ever talked about. It says uh that you will be you will not be a spirit without a body. Right, it says you will receive a new name and a new body, and you will not be spirits without bodies, brother.
SPEAKER_02You are describing the third stage of the alchemical process, you know, as taught by the medieval alchemists. There's negredo, albedo, and rubedo. And just to be just a like, give a gloss over, quick gloss over. Negredo is disillusion. In other words, you know, um yeah, disillusion. You break things down, you break it down to its very last compound. This is akin to death, yeah, right? Just like how you break down the old dad body through exercise. That's catabolic, means to break down. Yeah, then you extract the true essence out of what's been broken down, right? When you've made solvent what is fixed, you that's called albedo, and then you reform a structure, a body, an institution based purely on the essence. That's rubedo. So you're that it's you're right, brother. People that's not spoken about in Revelations about how you know the hereafter is heavenly and earthly simultaneously. Yeah, how there is no spirit without a body, yeah, and that's clearly stated.
SPEAKER_00Um, and that also means reincarnation. That means that once you transition from this reality, wherever you're going, without a body, that's right, bro. Interesting stuff, right? Yes, yes, and you know, with alchemy, it goes back to the philosopher's stone, right? Absolutely, brother. And we're talking about this transmutation even of like metals into gold. Um in certain times, you know, and even in the Renaissance, uh, some of the alchemists they would experiment with some of these techniques, even on themselves, drinking these delicious and so forth, you know. Yes. Um, let's talk about some of the let's talk about the monoatomic gold, but we can't make any hard claims about it because YouTube doesn't like that. But let's just talk about you know what the alchemists were talking about with it.
SPEAKER_02Sure. There's so there's there's internal and external alchemy. So we can look at, for instance, this, you know, alchemy is just a science of transmutation, and there's so many realms of human experience. And so when we say realms of human experience, we can call those worlds. So there's biological transmutation or alchemy, there's psychological alchemy, social alchemy, technological alchemy, economic alchemy, all of them are subject to the art of transmutation, right? And so the medieval alchemists, when you hear them talking about making elixirs, and especially the Chinese alchemists with cinnabar, which is very poisonous, and things like that, you know, they were pursuing that's external alchemy. For instance, the Taoist alchemists would say anything that you place in your body from the outside is secondary is secondary alchemical elixir. But the energy from thought and the energy from soul is internal elixir, primary elixir, you see. So, you know, the the the process of preparing the alchemical process to transmute base metals to gold, from lead to gold or whatever, it it's actually simultaneous. So when we talk about internal and external, it's like saying macrocosmic and microcosmic. What's not said is that the great work is to integrate the two, to blur the lines between macro and micro, to blur the lines between external and internal, which is exactly what you spoke about in the book of Revelation, where we spiritualize the flesh. You spiritualize the flesh, you don't just be you don't you're not just anthropomorphic. To borrow a phrase that I learned from my good friend Dr. Wesley Muhammad, you become transcendentally anthropomorphic.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, absolutely.
SPEAKER_02Yes, sir. Transcendentally, you become more human, you become post-human in certain secret orders. That's what they would call it. Post-human in this case, we would mean you ascend beyond the need to reincarnate.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. Yes, sir. Incredible.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_00And we're just scientists are just finally beginning to start to tap into this, but they're doing it with the assistance and help of quantum physicists, theoretical physicists, uh, and even neuroscientists. They realize that they had to team up and come together instead of being separate. If they want to crack the code on all these transformations and the capabilities of the avatar body. And I know that it was in um just, I believe, in 2025, they had just for the very first time, according in in this modern time, um, used CERN, the LHC, the large hadron collider in Switzerland.
SPEAKER_02Hadron collider, that's right.
SPEAKER_00Yes, to create gold, right? Isn't that something?
SPEAKER_02Yeah, so it's funny you say that because for the longest, Western, the West, the Western psychological narrative said that alchemy is pseudoscience, not real science. And they would say they're ridiculous and talking about lead to gold or gold out of nothing or whatever, right? And here we go with the hadron collider doing it physically, demonstrating that it can be physically done. That's right, yes, sir. To your point about quantum physics, quantum physics is forcing the Western world to reluctantly admit that the ancients knew exactly what they were talking about.
SPEAKER_00Exactly. Yes, sir. These beings and these these ancient cultures they had significantly more wisdom than we do now, and they had combined the understanding of the spiritual realm, which the quantum physics explains, you combined that with the technical realm. Yeah, and that was their convergence of the alchemy. That's how they were able to transform things and make things look like magic.
SPEAKER_02Isn't that something, brother? It's so powerful that the way you just put that, you know, we say true religion is indistinguishable from high science. You see, and and and and to be more detailed, true religion uses theological terms to describe and explain quantum realities.
SPEAKER_00Boom, exactly.
SPEAKER_02Quantum physics or quantum mechanics uses technical terms to describe theological truths, facts, yes, absolute facts.
SPEAKER_00We've been taught the two are completely separate. No, the two intertwine and completely explain each other. Absolutely, absolutely when you understand the quantum physics side of it, yes, then the other side, the spiritual side, doesn't seem like woo-woo or magic or miracles. It seems like if I understand this side and I know the energy and the effort or know what to do on the side of the quantum field, yes, then I can manipulate that to get the spiritual outcome that I'm looking for.
SPEAKER_02Bingo! And this the and this separation between theology and science is what put the world to sleep and allowed the conditions that we're in right now to manifest.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, exactly. And that's where we are. We're just starting to get the babies to wake up. Isn't that something? Isn't that something?
SPEAKER_02Yeah, and that's deep that you put it that way. So you said babies, right? So we can look at babies socially as a people that are on the lowest of the low of the social, economic, and political totem pole in America. That is the so-called black man and woman. Yeah, you know what I mean? It's and if now, and then and then to speak biblically, it says a child elite. Right?
SPEAKER_01Very true, right?
SPEAKER_02It also says that you know, the creator will put knowledge into the fool to confound the wise. Yeah, this is what's brother. Forbidden knowledge is a manifestation of that prophecy.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, true. It's an absolute manifestation of it. Yes, and this is the beginning stages of, you know, we're heading into this fifth age, as the Hopi prophecy predicted, where we come out of this fourth world and heading into this fifth world, yes, where we're gonna see a lot of calamity and noise. It's like, you know, this last temper tantrum, it's happening right now on the planet. We see it, they know their time has come to an end, just like Amun Ra knew his time was coming to an end. So he started a war to delay that, uh, the ending of that situation. And uh, and now they are just duplicating what's already happened in the past. But these are the the beginnings of the birthing pangs to create the fifth world, and that's also a version of uh uh of alchemy, you know, converting this fourth world alchemically into this new fifth world that we're headed into now, brother.
SPEAKER_02That is, see, that's wow, perfectly said. That is psychological and social alchemy, yeah. In other words, a paradigm shift in thinking globally. The whole world is being pushed towards this change, this shift in point of perception. So, and I use this analogy a lot. So we've got let's say at the tip of my finger is a point, you've got a problem. We've all experienced this. You have a problem and you're trying to solve your problem, and you're frustrated because you're going this direction, this direction, this direction, and thought, that direction and thought, and you can't solve the problem, you can't find a solution. Then all of a sudden it comes to you, and you have that aha moment, like, oh, it's because the point changed, the point of perception changed. That is a paradigm shift in thinking, and the world is being pushed towards that now. In in a struggle, there's always casualties, yeah. And this is where you bring up reincarnation. Those that cannot make the shift will probably not make it in terms of they'll quote unquote die, but they will come back to a world where the shift is the normal, right?
SPEAKER_00Exactly, exactly. We're creating this new normal, yes, sir. That that process uh is just like a baby learning how to walk, right? Absolutely, absolutely, and so the baby right now, humanity is is crawling, but we're not walking. But when we get to the edge of the table and we pull ourselves up and begin to take a few steps, yes, that will begin the process, but we will fall again because a baby will fall after several steps. That's right. In this alchemical process, the psyche behind this is understanding okay, we took a few good steps, we got excited, yes, we fell. But how long really is this fall? Because we know we got the recipe to get back up again. How about so we get back up pretty quick, we take a few more steps. This time we take more steps, right? We have a slight fall, but the next time we don't cry as much because we know, hey, I can get up again. You got a point of reference.
SPEAKER_02That's exactly it. Yeah, brother. When you have so the world in general has no point of reference. This is where the fear, the loathing comes from. Because you know it's uncharted territory, except for those who've been briefed on what's on the other side of door number three. You see what I'm saying? You know, except for those who have access to forbidden knowledge. Right. You see, it's not a straight line, it's a circle. You know, so if it's a circle, I can accurately predict outcomes if I know where I am on the circle. You see, and like you said, then if you fall, it's like, okay, or then even the anticipation of a fall is not so painful. Yeah, exactly. Because you know, you know, you you know what's on the other side. Oh, I just get right back up. Yeah. But when you don't have that point of reference, you think that's the end when you fall, and this is where the world is now.
SPEAKER_00Yes, exactly. Exactly where it's now. We got to remember, and the reason why you know you people like yourself and I like to teach these ancient wisdom teachings, yes, uh, and these mystical teachings, and and these ancient, ancient, uh, true ancient history, as close as we can get to true, yes, is because it will give us a past reference, rather. It will give us something to look back on and say, Oh, I see now what happened here, because what happens there is going to affect what happens in the future. And when you can do that, you can properly plan.
SPEAKER_02And when you have a plan, you have peace of mind, you have ease of heart. You know what I mean? You're not panicked, and and you're not in your passions. You know what happens when you make decisions in your passions, you always live to regret it, yeah, you know, and but so it allows us to stay within reason, you know. Yeah, within the rest of the world, that's where we get true peace. Peace isn't everything calm around us, peace is me keeping my center when all hell is breaking loose around me.
SPEAKER_00Exactly. Exactly. Staying completely in full brain heart coherence, and when you like to say, being overly passionate about something you make a decision on, yes. What I try to tell people is look, follow your heart, but take your brain with you. Come on, brother. That's right. You couldn't need it, right?
SPEAKER_02That's right. In a previous show, you and I were on with brother Rich. Shout out to Brother Rich, right? Radio Rich. I'll be on with on with him later later on tonight. But nice, we talked about that. We talked about how the intellect, left brain, its job is to interpret intuition, not replace it. Yes, yeah, that's which it goes back to what you said about the hard brain coherence. Yes, sir. Yes, sir.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I agree, man. This is powerful stuff, everyone. Sharif is having a retreat. I'm dropping a link in the live chat again. Yes, the retreat link is also in the caption of this video. It's in the live chat on all the platforms. We're live on a lot of platforms right now. Beautiful. That link, um, and uh make sure y'all go ahead and register for his retreat. Uh where's the locate? Tell us about the retreat, real quick.
SPEAKER_02Sure, it's called the macrocosmic integration retreat. I chose that name because, again, like I mentioned before, there's a lot, you know, a lot of the deep things are in what's not said. So when you hear microcosmic and macrocosmic, man is a microcosmic universe, the universe is a macrocosmic man. Well, what's the great work then to blur the lines between the two? So if I got little gears that correspond to the big gears, and if I can tighten the connection between the big and the small, all I gotta do is manipulate the little gears to move the big gears. Make sense? Yeah, so so that's what's called macrocount, the macrocosmic integration retreat. Three days, May 22nd through the 25th in Stone Mountain, Georgia at the Atlanta Evergreen Lakeside Resort. Okay, that's where we will be. We will be covering three major topics. We'll be going into great detail on internal alchemy, right? Chi Gong is a big part of internal alchemy, okay. How to access your light body that already has M-State um elements, already has M-State elements, okay. How to access that. And um, then external alchemy, we'll be talking about monoatomic gold, or almost we'll be talking about history, uh, its makeup, scientific makeup, um, its use in ancient Kemeter Egypt, the medieval alchemist, all the way up to the present. And we will actually have it on deck there as well. Um, and then we'll be talking about um initiation. Initiation is old world education instead of today's method in the west, where they call it the tombstone method, where they line everybody up and just dictate to them, right? Yeah, as opposed to as opposed to providing access via, for instance, epigenetics. If you already carry within yourself, within your flesh, the essence of your forefathers, that means you carry their data, their information and knowledge, too. Correct. So initiation opens up access to the knowledge of those that came before you. I love it. See, and so there's a particular initiation we'll be speaking on, and it's called in certain secret orders, the Afro-Atlantean initiation and or the Afro-Atlantean current, right? And this particular order that speaks to this talks about um why they moved their headquarters of the order from Haiti to the south side of Chicago, and they said it was to broadcast that current to attract the reincarnating Atlantean priesthood.
SPEAKER_00Wow.
SPEAKER_02And who they said, yes, who's reincarnating in America?
SPEAKER_00Wow. That's amazing. Hey, y'all, if I want to be a part of this retreat, sounds amazing. I have to come to the next one that you have. I'm gonna be trying, but uh wow, this is powerful stuff. I dropped a link in the live chat. Make sure y'all check it out. Beautiful, and um, now let's talk a little bit about alchemy with regards to manifesting. Is manifesting from your perspective kind of the same thing of turning or attracting or creating a reality or outcome?
SPEAKER_02It literally is, but it begins with I would say let's say I would say manifestation to be to be very specific or more specific, manifestation is a result of the alchemical process, and a prerequisite people to the alchemical process is recognizing the truth. Okay, so like in follow me, in the Arabic language in the religion of Islam, they'll say we'll say La ilaha illallah, la ilaha illallah. There is now it's mistranslated as there is no God but Allah. That's a mistranslation, okay, by orthodoxy or so-called orthodoxy. The real translation is literally the binary code. Wow, there is no God, there is only Allah, there's only oneness. What does that mean? It means um there's no separation between subject and object in true reality. Duality is an illusion, duality is the result of polarity. So when I can recognize that there's no difference between my thought of ten thousand dollars and an actual ten thousand dollars, boom, the manifestation happens all by itself, it's a fact, yeah. Yeah, you see, just recognizing oneness, but that take such a simple act to our complex minds, takes a lot of practice. Yeah, it takes a lot of feeling away.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, a lot, a lot of a lot of us we have been um locked into this system where we just don't believe, or we don't a lot of people don't think they're worthy of any type of abundance. And that misconception of what it means to be abundant from growing up, a lot of negativity has been given to us, a lot of scarcity mindset has been forced on us with things like money don't grow on trees, or you know, uh the root of money is all evil or is evil, or you know, the love of money is evil, or whatever they say. And then they, you know, they talk about um, you know, rich men are evil and all these kinds of things. So you when you get to a point where you're slightly or starting to become, I see this in my mentoring program, people are starting to become fairly successful, yes, and they have a chance to even get to the next level, yes, they start retracting and holding back. They don't want to go through that next alchemical transition because that programming, that subconscious code from when they were a child is telling them if they get to that next level, then they're gonna be evil and it's gonna be hard. And all these other crazy scenarios that have been programmed into us, yes, and so they kind of start backtracking and they go back to a safe spot.
SPEAKER_02A safe isn't that something that that again that brother, that is a huge part of the the the Western colonial mindset that's designed to make mindless drones, and design you just people when when that happens, because man, I'm the I I've been the poster child of that mentality, you know, thinking that I'm not deserving, I'm not worthy, you know, you know, and that we're creators. If we could say we're children of the most high creator, that means we're creators too, right? But the problem is we don't recognize that we're creating, and what do we do? We perfectly create hell for ourselves.
SPEAKER_00That's right, you know, yeah, yeah. Yeah, because as soon as things start to get into an area that the next alchemical transformation needs to begin, yes, it's almost like hitting this wall and the fear sets in. We pull back, we even begin to self-sabotage, we begin to procrastinate, right? Yes, and we begin to look for excuses of everything we can find, not to make that extra call, not to do this extra thing, not to take care of that situation. Yes, and then all of a sudden we start sliding backwards, and then we start going, I don't know what happened. And then what do we do? It becomes self-fulfilling prophecy.
SPEAKER_02We say, See, I knew it. Billy was just feeding me a bunch of nonsense. Yeah, I shouldn't have listened to him, and and in doing so, deny the progress that they made.
SPEAKER_00Yes, yes, completely denied, don't even see it, don't even don't even just took it from completely for granted, right? Yes, it's like I tell people when you're a runner, a long distance runner, yes, after the first hour, I don't care how experienced they are, their mind and their body wants to stop. Yes, they know that that wall is coming, right? Yes, they know it's coming, but their mind and their body is telling them everything. Okay, stop. You you this is just too much. When they hit that wall, that's where the transformation begins.
SPEAKER_02There you go.
SPEAKER_00And they transcend that wall. Yes, they phase shift and they go through the wall. Yes, and once they get to the other side of that wall, now they can run for another five, six hours.
SPEAKER_02Brother, you just describe you describe athletic alchemy. Yeah, anybody who's an athlete or who's done anything athletically of this sort understands exactly what you're talking about. They understand you have okay. Let's say I want to do a hundred push-ups to get my arm stronger. The 100 push-ups don't do it, it's the last five that do it. Yeah, but the first 95 prepare me to go beyond my flesh. You know, a lot of times, what do we do? We we hire a coach or a trainer to go beyond our flesh because we need that one person. Okay, I've done 95 push-ups, I'm smoked physically. There is nothing else left in me. But that coach says, Give me five more. And it forced you to go to that space that's out that that's beyond your flesh and download that strength to get five more. Well, what if we could cut out that process of beating ourselves up? What if we could what if we could bypass the process of beating down the flesh, yeah, to get to the part of us, the true part of us that that doesn't recognize distance, time you see what I'm saying? Limitations, yeah, man.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, limitations is a big reason why people struggle, they struggle to transform to the next the best version of themselves.
SPEAKER_02Brother, the work you're doing, what we would call the work, the work you're doing, where you're compelling people to forget the flesh and go with mind into the land of fleshless things, yeah, right? That's the work you're doing. We call that in the Morris Science Temple of America the everlasting gospel. It's telling the truth about man. See, it's telling the truth about man. That's that that's powerful, brother.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, yeah, it is, man. What you're doing is so powerful, too. Um, you know, when when you were talking about alchemy, yes, um, how does this relate to uh things that we can apply to our life, our our lives on a day-by-day basis, on a moment by moment? How can we like apply the knowledge of alchemy? What benefits are we gonna get out of this?
SPEAKER_02Oh man, and and it wow, that that's that's very powerful. The first thing I would say is first and apply it to small things. We start with small deliverables, yeah, and then expand and get bigger and bigger. We you know, like the art of manifestation, sure, but the prerequisite is understanding the difference between the will and a wish, like what you were speaking about with some of your students in your community, how they they they make some progress a few paces and then fall back because they exercised will and made progress, and it scared them, and they allowed the will to degrade back to wish. Right. Wish allows space for the doubt, it allows space for the negative things to creep in and abort the process of the will. Alistair Crowley said it this way: he said, most people don't have a this he it started with him giving a scientific definition for magic. He said, Magic is the science of causing change, transmutation in conformity to one's will. Wow, he said, most people don't have a will, they just have a set of wishes. One can't one contradicts the other, and at death they cancel each other out.
SPEAKER_00That's right. Will vibration there you go.
SPEAKER_02Will allows no room for an opposing thought.
SPEAKER_00I love it.
SPEAKER_02You see, but will takes effort, people. It's we've all been there where we've gotten, you know what, I'm sick and tired of being sick and tired. But again, just like we said about the 95 push-ups, yo, you got to get beat up to get to that point, and that which is unfortunate, but it's a reality. You gotta get whipped to get to the point, like, you know what? I'm sick and tired of being sick and tired, and you do not allow yourself to have an opposing thought, right? That takes an amount of effort, people. It takes weight lifting for the mind. So you practice it small with small things. I'm gonna kick this habit that I have. I got this very bad habit of oversleeping, and so the night the night before, I form a determined idea, and I mean determined idea. Don't play with yourself, don't you know? I'm gonna form a determined idea. I'm getting up at 5:30 in the morning, the end, yeah, and you do it. All it takes is one time, and there's your proof. That's it, and there's your proof.
SPEAKER_00See, yeah, I love what you said about these small steps. The thing that I teach in my academy, yes, in my mentoring classes, is let's take baby steps. Yes, I never force anyone to bite off more than they can actually chew because what happens is it ends up being overwhelming. Yes, but if you take little tiny steps every single day, little tiny steps of progress, yes, you turn around in six months, you look back, you go, I walked five miles. You turn around in a year, I walked 10 miles. Isn't that something, brother? It's incredible.
SPEAKER_02We used to have an old lesson. The question was asked what makes rainhill, snow, and earthquakes, right? And there's a lot of the you know, the whole there's a lot. Bottom line is this it's really the study of cause and effect. Everybody pays attention to the water and the snow and the hail and the sleet when it comes down. Yeah, nobody's paying attention to the fact that the water is going up when the sun is out. Yeah, you see, so everybody sees effect, nobody sees cause. Yeah, so the small steps nobody sees the result when you're shining, everybody sees that. They think ah, lucky break, uh Cinderella, Cinderella principle. You know what I'm saying? That's in instead of no, a bunch of tiny, small but solid steps.
SPEAKER_00Yes, no doubt. Yes, sir. And I try to tell people, you know, when I people see me now and they go, Man, this guy, you know, he's he's he's did all these things and he, you know, he's this guy's just lucky, he's got a lot of luck, you know. Right, right, right. But they weren't they don't, you know, they weren't with me when I was shooting in the gym, you know. And we're going back to mind. I started forbidden knowledge in 2011 is when I started posting forbidden knowledge on social media. Wow, and I was posting earlier than that, but I wasn't known as forbidden knowledge, I was known with another name, and I came back as forbidden knowledge, yes, soon after taking a little hiatus. Yes, and from 2011 to 2017, I didn't monetize anything, right? I just built the process, I trusted the process and built the platforms. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. In 2017, I realized okay, if I'm gonna do this as my passion, full-time, non-stop, I've got to be able to somehow turn this into a business that can still help and bless people, enlighten people, and give them things within the community. Yes, uh, the things that they're doing already, they're just replacing it with this. Yes, so that I can continue to keep this cycle going and I can keep growing and I can make it bigger and bigger, you know.
SPEAKER_01That's right.
SPEAKER_00Again, that took time, it took baby steps. I had to persevere, I had to overcome, yes, I had to get through many, many walls. Yes, and I'm still through that process right now, you know. No matter, no matter where you are, there's always another level, brother.
SPEAKER_02You I know you, so I already know you're one of the hardest working people I know, bro.
SPEAKER_00Oh man, thanks, brother.
SPEAKER_02I'm trying to, I'm and and I really meant that. I wasn't being patronized when I said earlier in the show, like, look, I I I watch your work ethic, yeah, you know, and it's it's that balance. It's like the they don't see the work ethic, they see the result, yeah. But there's the balance there, so the pound amount of work you put in equates to what people see you taking out, right?
SPEAKER_00Yeah, yeah, that's this powerful stuff, man. Now, let's go a little bit into the ancients. Um, yes, what did they have to say about alchemy?
SPEAKER_02Wow, let's talk about um 18th 18th dynasty Egypt.
SPEAKER_00Okay, oh yeah, nice, yeah.
SPEAKER_02Let's talk about that. Let's talk about the book of Exodus in 18th to the 18th dynasty, you know, as recorded in the Armana letters. So we don't just have to stick with the Bible, which some people would say, uh, that's historically spurious. Yeah, you can go to the Armana letters and see the actual Egyptian records themselves about these same characters. So let's take Moses, right? Moses is Hebrew, but raised in Egypt, yeah, and raised amongst Egyptian royalty, so he knew the secrets. Yeah, he kills an Egyptian soldier and he and he on the run. He goes to the base of Mount Horeb, where he meets his future father-in-law, Jethro. He goes up on Mount Horeb, where he meets you know El Shaddai, the god of the burning bush. Yeah, receives his initiation, comes back down. Then later, when he's leading the children of Israel, he leads them right back to that same spot. Right? And he goes up on the mountain, his representative Aaron is feeling complaints from the Israelites, and they're like, Where is he? Is he dead? Blah blah blah. He makes a golden calf with a sun disc and horns. Okay, that's significant. Moses comes out of the mountain, gets angry, according to the Bible, with the children of Israel. What does he do with the golden calf? Burns it, turns it into a powder, strews it on the water, and makes them drink it. That's right, right? Then they're they're they're you know, they're complaining about not having nothing to eat, and then one morning they wake up and it's this white stuff on the ground. Shout out to David Hudson, there's this white stuff on the ground, and they call it Nana. And it says in the Bible, manna means what is it? Yeah, fast forward to 1901, a real European or English. English Indiana Jones, Sir Flanders Petrie.
SPEAKER_00That's right.
SPEAKER_02Is is uh excavating a site on um um Kadima Sera B, right? The uh uh the modern name for the ancient Mount of Hored. He finds an Egyptian style temple dedicated to the goddess Hathor, whose emblem is what? Golden calf with the sun disc.
SPEAKER_00That's right.
SPEAKER_02Right, and he finds all of these inscriptions talking about something called Shemana. What is it, which is also found in the book of the coming forth by day.
SPEAKER_00That's right.
SPEAKER_02That's right. So those rituals were not necessarily funerary rituals, they were transformation rituals, right? And then he finds that of this fine white powder. What was that place? It was a manufacturing plant turning metal gold into white powder gold. Yeah, that's for consumption, yes, for consumption. As a matter of fact, the late Lawrence Gardner, who was the historiographer royale for the Knights Templar Order, stated that the ancient Egyptian pharaohs they made this to deify the pharaohs, and they called it bread. Yes, they called it bread and they called it stone, and it was to deify the kings. What do we mean by deify? Like I mentioned, you have m-state elements. What do we mean by m-state? I want to explain that to the audience. In chemistry, we learned in high school, you've got an atom. Let's say it's an atom of gold, and it has a perfect octet of uh electrons all orbiting in their individual orbits. Well, when you act upon that gold atom with, let's say, a high-energy electric arc for a certain amount of time, cause the nucleus to rotate even faster, super, super fast, it elongates like a cat's iris. The electrons then form on either end. It's called a dumbbell atom. And then the nucleus flexes, and the electrons form what's called a cooper pairing. When this happens, all of the electrons are rotating in the exact same direction. That is what monoatomic means. So when that happens, the metal-to-metal bonds that make the gold a metal fall apart. It is pure gold, but it is no longer a metal. And it creates what's called um a Bose-Einstein condensate. Correct. Yes. So to simply put, a miniature wormhole that gives access to what Rupert Sheldrake and David Boehm called, you know, uh the morphogenic field, the higher-dimensional version of things in 3D. So, in short, like I said, the whole body is full of these things. Shout out to the late scientist Mae Won Ho, who wrote a scientific paper on it, said that the whole body through the uh connective tissue highway is full of M-state hydrogen and other um M-state elements. And so the the eating or the ingesting of the monoatomic gold builds and strengthens the body in you that is the interface to the higher dimensions. In the higher dimensions, there is no difference between time and space, right? That's what's meant by the deification of the kings, right?
SPEAKER_00Yeah, they were tapping into this multidimensional version of themselves. Yes, through that. Yeah, it's incredible stuff. Deep stuff, brother. It's deep stuff. We these people were real true spiritual scientists, yes, and they understood they understood this realm in a way that we're just now beginning to understand. Absolutely.
SPEAKER_02We're catching up to where they are.
SPEAKER_00We're catching up, and the the benefit that we have now is this incredible fractal of human consciousness called AI, which is helping us speed up the process.
SPEAKER_02And to your point about where we are in the what the turmoil we see in the world, this catching up to where we were, in my strong opinion, is a catalyst to the upheaval and to the you know, and and yeah, it's a because it's it's like okay, another mystery, a biblical mystery, Cain and Abram. The way it's fed to us in the West is that Cain killed his brother Abel. Well, to the Kabbalists, that's not so. The deficit spark in man, yeah, right. Abel represents the generation of shells that are built to contain the seed, to allow it to continue to unfold. Well, the purpose of the shell is to create the atmosphere for the growth of the seed, like a plant in a in a vase. The purpose of the seed is to outgrow the plant. I mean, outgrow the vase. Yes, Abel was not killed by Cain, Cain outgrew Abel. You see, and so that's what we're seeing now. This coming of age of knowledge in the world is shattering the social narrative, yeah, the old social narrative.
SPEAKER_00Oh, yeah, it's cracked and shattered, that's for sure, man. Yes, and the that's also another form of alchemy, yes. Uh the unveiling or seeing behind the veil, and so you're a person that has had your blinders on. Yes, you've heard information, but it's gone in one air out the other. Yes, and then all of a sudden, the Epstein files. How about that? All of a sudden, all this crazy stuff going on with insider training and wars being waged to steal resources from other people right in broad daylight. Right in broad daylight, he can't even lie good enough about it. It's so obvious now. Absolutely, and even people on his side for all this time had turned around and their their blinders fell off and said, Wait a damn minute, hold on, exactly.
SPEAKER_02And so you're talking now about the second stage of alchemy, albedo, which is the extraction of the essence and the revelation of truth. Now, but it takes the breaking down of the facade to see it.
SPEAKER_00Exactly.
SPEAKER_02See, you've got, for instance, you know, you have the No Kings protests all over the country, right? Yeah, and how European Americans of European descent, so-called white people, are like, you know what, you black people stay at home. We're gonna protect you because we know if you come out, it's gonna be a bloodbath. Well, guess what? As you know, and I know, we were staying at home anyway. You know why? Because this is any given Tuesday for us, right? Right? But what did but what did the rest of America, what is the rest of America starting to see? Yeah, you know, shout out to this one podcast is called I've had enough. They talk about it a lot. They're like, we're seeing what the quote unquote black people have been telling us for decades.
SPEAKER_00Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER_02So guess what? Now the rest of America understands so-called white America is starting to understand Jim Crowism. That's right. You see what I'm saying? No, we call it the nigrification of America, and we mean that alchemically, yeah, the dissolution of the facade, it's collapsing all around us, yes, and it can't be stopped at this point.
SPEAKER_00The collapsing, the the shattering, yes, it can't be stopped.
SPEAKER_02It can't be stopped, brother. No, there's no stopping it. They're still, as we see, desperately trying to control the narrative. What we see with the war in Iran right now, they spend more money trying to control how we see it and think about it.
SPEAKER_00I know, isn't it crazy? They spent over a trillion dollars trying to control our brains about the war. The war is happening on the minds of the people. Period. Point blank. Yes, 1000%. Yes, except this time, the tactics aren't working, they're not the the broadly casted spell from their broadcasting, they're broadly casting that spell is falling on deaf ears this time, and deaf minds and minds, the eyes, the blinders have fallen off. Absolutely, and everyone's going, Wait a goddamn minute. That's right, ain't right. That's right, they just got the spiritual eye drops, and they're like, damn, I can see.
SPEAKER_02Yes, for the first time, I can really see for the first time. I see what this thing is, yeah. You know, I see what it is, man. And for us in America, just I'm speaking generally, it's not pretty. No, yeah, it's not pretty, you know. When when when Professor Eddie Glaude says this is us, right? What he's really saying is look in the mirror, and the monkey never calls his own child ugly.
SPEAKER_00Absolute facts, yes, sir. That's it. But this is the it's such a catch 22 because we need the the facade to fall. Yes, it's such a shame what we see behind the veil, it's so dark, yes. But the thing that I think people need to realize is that it's not that things are getting worse, they only become more obvious.
SPEAKER_02Yes, you got it, but but you know, and see here's the heavy lifting for us, for just people in general, even though those of us that allege, and I have to say it that way, that we're never we were never cool with how things are. Yeah, we still learn to live with it, yeah. So there's still a part of us that's invested in the old systems that are falling apart. Facts, and we have to be honest with ourselves about this, yeah. You know what I mean? We gotta be honest because if we're not honest, when it fully crashes, we crash with it.
SPEAKER_00Exactly, yeah, man. Yeah, it's time to take the exit off the highway, yes, yeah, before the 18 car pile up.
SPEAKER_02That's right, that's right.
SPEAKER_00Oh man, that's right. That's a great analogy, by the way. This has just been wild, brother. It's been wild. Listen, he's got an amazing retreat coming up in Stone Mountain, Georgia. I've been dropping the link in the live chat all night. Make sure y'all click that link and go up and see Brother Sharif up in Atlanta at Stone Mountain. It's gonna be an amazing retreat. Give them the dates and everything again.
SPEAKER_02It's May 22nd through the 25th in Stone Mountain, Georgia, at the Atlanta Evergreen Lakeside Resort. Okay, the Atlanta Evergreen Lakeside Resort. And to the what we were just talking about, this retreat is emblematic of the type of uh shift that is needed to survive the shift. Lao Tzu, you know, the the Daoistage said it this way to change with change is the changeless state. Yeah, see to change with change. Somebody asked, Billy, why you stop talking about the Anunnaki? What do we talk? What did we talk about today? That's exactly oh, I'm see, brother, hold on. Watch, watch. See, let's talk about it. See, when we talk about the change, right? Religious talk, they call it what uh Armageddon judgment hereafter. See what do we say in the so-called new age community? Disclosure, all the same, but what you have, follow me. You what you have is those that would hold those that would keep you from not thinking, even trying to control the narrative on that inevitability. So, what did they tell you in religious circles? You're gonna see a stringy haired guy in a white robe surfing on a cloud to come say, right? Okay, what are they saying in new in the new age community? Oh, you're gonna see a UFO land in front of the White House, and a guy with a big head and bug eyes is gonna say, Take me to your leader. It's all the same. Somebody trying to, it's narrative control, people. See, nobody ever thought about the fact that disclosure is a process that is already being occurring, it's already been occurring, and it's done. We're living through disclosure now. The fact that there's a forbidden knowledge means that there's a degree of the creator of forbidden knowledge living post-disclosure reality and giving you a glimpse on what's on the other side. Exactly. You see what I'm saying? You've got here, I'll let's explain it. Here, watch this. Watch this. If we were in the 50s right now, talking about the UFO community and talking about quote unquote aliens, what did aliens look like at that time? Valiant Thor, in other words, valiant Thor. That's right. Right, and then what do you have? You have the great airship scare even before that in 1897, human beings, yeah, or at least looking like human beings, right? And then you have Crowley coming along in the late 50s with with his work, and he a being that he encountered in one of his magical excursions. That was the first time you saw the big head bug eyes. That being was called Lamb, yeah. And then in 1966, you have the Betty and Barney Hill Hill UFO incident, which was the first time we witnessed gray aliens. You're starting to see a change. See that? And then so then in 1954, United States secretly masters anti-gravity, yeah. And so, what does that tell you? That means that 80% of the things we see in the sky now is ours. Um, how about that? Which all and then you know, you got people like like um Emery Smith and some of the work he did, which lets you know what. Even he admitted that in many times he wasn't sure if he was dealing with aliens or hybrids made in a lab, which means that they can manufacture a full-fledged false flag operation that is 100% believable, right down to living entities.
SPEAKER_00No doubt about it. You see Congressman Gates, former Congressman Gates just came out the other day and went public stating that they have these hybrids, yes, and they have people being abducted off the streets of America, most likely homeless people who don't have anyone looking for them. Yes, and they take them to these secreted bases and they then do these mating rituals or attempt to hybridize them with these other non-human entities. How about that, brother? And then Tim Representative Tim Burchett backed it up on a totally separate statement. Yes. And uh, I highly believe this is what's going on. Some of the actual alien abductions could be these hybrids or whatever these are, like you're talking about, taking people off the streets to bring them to another place and then getting them taking genetic material out of them, of course, and then trying to in some way make these hybrid versions of maybe trying to build super soldiers or who know. Yes, you know, this is another another born identity in real life.
SPEAKER_02You listen, you you you, you know, I'll I I I won't go too far, I'll just say this. Yeah, and I know you already you you already you already there, you know, up here is that you know, a lot of these disappearances for these types of black budget projects, yeah, are linked in many ways to you know oh yeah, Clive Davis Epstein type of communities, yeah, yeah, you know, no doubt, yes, sir. Yes, sir, absolutely, and then but back to this disclosure process, yeah. So now you've got this okay, they're not extraterrestrials necessarily, there are some, but they're ultra-terrestrial. So we're not talking about coming from different distant star systems, but from different dimensions, bam, absolutely, and now the most recent thing, which is really interesting, many of these so-called aliens aren't even alien, they're they're they're they're they're pre-atomite humanity from previous cycles, they're homegrown, homegrown, you know. Like now, let's go back to the Anunnaki, right? So, I'm not now I'm dealing now with phonetic transliteration, not uh follow me. We've got Anunnaki, which you know, the word I forgot what it actually means in the ancient Sumerian, it just descended from a royal bloodline.
SPEAKER_00Cool.
SPEAKER_02Now, watch this. You got the Hopi Indians, the Hopi Native Americans in the Grand Canyon area, who talk about in their tradition an ancient time where they had to, you know, where where the surface basically was unhabitable, and they had to go into the caves and they had to go into the caverns, and they were helped, listen to this, by what they call the ant friends. And in their language, ant is spelled is what said Anu and Friend Naki.
SPEAKER_00Right? That's true.
SPEAKER_02How about that? Yep, absolutely, interesting stuff, people.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, and you see the same, you know. I went to Egypt um 2025. Yes, the vases inside the Cairo Museum in this one section, they've got the ant people on there etched into these diorite, crystal diorite vases that are so cut to some precision, we have no machine that can replicate them. Right, wow. But these ant beings took them down at a time of a potential calamity or catastrophe and saved people underground on all those underground channels that exist all throughout Egypt. It was an underground metropolis where thousand, maybe potentially hundreds of thousands, if not millions of people, yes, were taken down there by these same beings. Yeah, and they also have them in Turkey.
SPEAKER_02Uh yeah, yeah, they're in Kuyu. That's right. You you being, you know, on the various trips that you've done, you know, to Egypt, yeah. You're familiar with the labyrinths or yeah, the underground labyrinths that are talked about, but I don't know that they're not they're not allowing access to those, are they?
SPEAKER_00Not yet. We're really working on it. I just did a huge keynote lecture this past weekend on the underground labyrinths uh beneath Giza, beneath the bedrock.
SPEAKER_01Yes.
SPEAKER_00And uh we meaning several of us are really working very hard to get the permissions to just pay the right people, yes, and also to give the new telemetry uh to the satellites and everything else to get access and get more data. And this process has already started. Yes, where it could take a couple of years, to be quite honest, to get everything situated and done. Yes, but the process has at least started. We haven't gotten a no, but we are in the process of going through everything we it takes to get the permissions to do this.
SPEAKER_02See, brother, see, that's so powerful. That's powerful work because that's real solid work, right? And also to me, hearing that it's evidence of what time is on our side. That's right. Time is not on the side of the old structures, the old social structures. Time is not on that side, but time is on our side, brother.
SPEAKER_00Yes, absolutely, absolutely. Yeah, man. Hey, it's been great having you on today, brother. I appreciate you, man. Thanks for hopping on.
SPEAKER_02Thank you, brother. Man, thank you for the opportunity, man. It's just just being able to share energy with you, man. This is it's always amazing, always amazing. This is cool being able to speak with somebody who knows who knows.
SPEAKER_00Thank you, man. That's the same way. We got to do this again. We got to keep this on a consistent basis, you know. We gotta keep that, we gotta keep uh collaborating together. Um, I'll collaborate this to your YouTube account so that it'll show up in both places.
SPEAKER_02Beautiful, brother.
SPEAKER_00Beautiful, and and everyone, please make sure y'all click that link in the caption of this video. I'll be dropping it in the live chat. And where can they find you on social media?
SPEAKER_02Uh, you can find me on Facebook and Instagram, especially. You can find me um Instagram, um uh Life of a Grand Chic, or also uh just uh Sharif Bay on um Instagram, Facebook. You can catch me, Sharif and Iel Bay, very easy, or you can catch my website, um uh um uh Syracusefighting.com for the professional you know martial arts and security uh consulting. Also, um Sigala Retreats. Okay. Sigala, why'd I pick that name? I'm gonna tell you real quick. Our brothers in the um in Mali, in the uh Dogon fraternity, the Dogon tribe, with their ancient knowledge of the Sirius Star S and B, and knowing that Sirius B, a white dwarf, which was invisible into the radio telescope to the Western world, was made was so dense that a spoonful of its material would drop straight to the center of the earth. Correct. They said that this that its core is a metal, that's what they say, and they say it's so dense they gave it a name. The name they gave it is Sadela, meaning it's small, tiny, but so dense its gravitational influence influences us right here on Earth.
SPEAKER_00Boom, I love it. Yeah, that's a fact, too. Yes, sir. They had so much wisdom, and they got that wisdom from the Nomo. Absolutely, yeah. Yeah, man. All right, beautiful. Everyone, thank y'all for hanging out today. Thank you for everyone on all the different platforms. Make sure y'all go ahead and follow my brother Sharif and click. That link and go check out that retreat in Stone Mountain, Georgia. All right, brother. Thank you, brother. Man, we'll talk soon. We'll catch you later. All right, peace.