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Conscious Dating Explained: Billy Carson & Seatrice Foster Reveal Their Love Story
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I got contacted by his ex.
SPEAKER_04A DM from my ex?
SPEAKER_05Slid in my DMs, and she told me, I do pretty good at interrupting you, so good.
SPEAKER_04Okay. Like how we met, how we're together, why we're together, what happened. How did we shift timelines?
SPEAKER_05She's like, girl, where are you going? I said the Bahamas. She was like, girl. Billy Carson, the alien guy. That I've been watching for years, wants to fly me to the Bahamas. And then I was really nervous because, you know, back then they were talking about getting flued out, the young girls and stuff. I called my girlfriend. I was like, girl. I think this is the definition of getting flued out.
SPEAKER_04We got by the pools, we relaxed. We just had such a great weekend there. Um, you know, it was good. It was good, yes.
SPEAKER_03Speaking of food, it was good, right?
SPEAKER_05But here's a caveat. So some of you guys may know that Billy used to be vegan for like 30 years, okay? And I'm a vegan. And so when we first were speaking back in 2020, because it took a while before we met in person, and he was still vegan at that time. But when we got there and we were eating, he ordered chicken. So I'm sitting here, right? I'm like, it's that vegan chicken.
SPEAKER_04No, they ain't a vegan chicken. It's bones in this chicken.
SPEAKER_06He gets to eat in the chicken. Like he ain't never had chicken before.
SPEAKER_03No more no more. I don't need perfect baby. No more. If I give you my wife, don't buy this wide open. Stay within on over.
SPEAKER_04My partner, Seatrice Foster. Cedris has an extraordinary story. She went from being a homeless single mother to becoming a successful entrepreneur, real estate investor, and businesswoman. Over the years, she has built and led companies across real estate, lending, consulting, and investing, and has helped facilitate more than a half billion dollars in real estate transactions. That's billion with a B. Today she leads House Foster Family Office, where she oversees her family's long-term investment strategy across real estate, private equity, emerging opportunities, and legacy-building ventures. She also owns and operates several businesses, including Trinity Capital Development, Foster and Williams Real Estate, and UShift Consulting. But what I admire the most about Seatrist isn't just what she's accomplished, it's who she is. She's a devoted mother, deeply spiritual, adventurous, resilient, and intentional about how she lives and loves. She approaches life with curiosity, consciousness, authenticity, and a genuine desire to see people become the highest version of themselves. She also knows what it means to overcome. Cedrice is a survivor of domestic abuse and recently celebrated 27 years of sobriety. Those experiences have shaped the compassion that she carries for others and inspired her work through Nikki's House, a non-profit organization supporting victims and families of impacted by domestic violence. And she definitely knows how to enjoy life. She loves traveling the world, motorcycles, supercars, spontaneous adventures, and taking her slingshot out whenever she gets a chance. What drew me to Seatris was her heart, her resilience, her spirituality, her ambition, and the way that she encourages people to live more boldly, love more deeply, and become more conscious about the lives they are creating. Cedris Foster.
SPEAKER_05Wow, that was humbling. I didn't know it said all of that.
SPEAKER_04Yeah.
SPEAKER_05Whoa.
SPEAKER_04Absolutely. And also now I want you to tell everyone a little bit about yourself. Like, how did you, that's a lot, that was a mouthful right there, right? So how did you go from where you were to that? Like what inspired you to become an absolute boss in that industry?
SPEAKER_05Oh wow. Thank you for that. Um, honestly, it was I was in a position with my children. Um, at one point I was homeless. We were homeless, um, sleeping, sleeping in cars, lucky if we were able to um get a hotel. And um then finally, you know, things turn around and I was able to rent a home and establish stability for my children. Uh the problem with that was landlords, when they were ready to sell, it didn't matter how many friends my kids made, how much stability I created and safety for them, it was time to go. So after that happened every two years and seeing the impact it had on my children, I desired to own a home. Uh at that time, didn't know anything about credit, uh, nothing about owning a home. I knew my parents owned a home, but they never talked to us about that anymore. So let the Bible raise us. But um but when it came to like any financial literacy or things like that, we were pretty much on our own. And I'm hey, I'm making money, I pay my rent on time, why can't I buy a home? And uh they basically told me, you know, uh income, you know, barriers, uh, the type of income, you know, uh documentation I had wasn't correct. I didn't even understand that. I literally knew nothing. And so I decided at that stage, well, let me help others. I'll become a loan officer so I can learn. And in turn, serving others, I'll teach myself, and then I can eventually buy a home for my children and I for stability. And uh that's what started me, you know, along that journey. And I got really, really good at servicing and solving problems um and providing for people that were in my position as well, and and really enjoyed it and and eventually um used that knowledge to uh flow into investments, uh, things like that. A few different things triggered that as well, but we don't have to talk about that now, that'll be for later. But yeah, but really what what started was just being a single mom and wanting to provide stability for my children.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, so that was your inspiration, of course, really to to provide that stability and to get a more consistent situation, family life where they wouldn't be moving around a lot, right? So that in some way just it it gave you something that I learned from Dr. Daniel Eamon of Eamon Clinic. So shout out to Dr. Eamon. Uh when I went to visit him a few years ago for a brain injury, and he looked at my brain scan, he saw a trauma pattern in my brain from my childhood. He recognized that there was a pattern there, and he told me that I had developed something called PTG, not PTSD. And I see that from the traumatic situation that you felt this irregularity of life uh that you were experiencing and wanting to do better for your kids, you also didn't succumb to the situation and the environment you developed PTG, which is post-traumatic growth. And so that post-traumatic growth I see now has allowed you to accelerate. In other words, you utilize those situations, you compress them and you alchemize them, you learn from them and you turn them into something better. You use it for the energy or the fuel to drive you to higher places, which is where you are now.
unknownYeah.
SPEAKER_04But this podcast is really designed to help grow deeper connection, to learn and grow from past relationship trauma, from past personal trauma, to understand connections better, communication better, de-escalation better. So many things that we're gonna be touching on. And also we're gonna be tapping and touching on um bringing in couples that have great experience, that have had success, right? Some of some might be celebrities, some might not be celebrities. But we want to find out what was a driving force in their success to be able to allow them to go through the storm together. And you're gonna find out that we're both learning at the same time. And so this is gonna be a very interesting podcast, but we do want to start with our story, like how we met, how we're together, why we're together, what happened, how did we shift timelines? Yeah because I know we made a post that went viral a few times actually, and a lot of people were asking, like, what happened? What's going on? I just I shifted timelines. Mandela effect. Now we're here.
unknownYeah.
SPEAKER_04So let's start off with that. You want to start first, you want me to start first?
SPEAKER_05Uh well, I mean here's the thing. I think that um, you know, we both have um different perspectives, um, but it's kind of one in the same. So I think you can lead, and I I do pretty good at interrupting you, so go ahead.
SPEAKER_04Okay. Okay. Well, I'll start off since I was the uh initial aggressor. So 2020, uh, I was single, and uh I made a post on social media, and then I saw your your own your home account comment on it. And I thought, that's an interesting, you know, tagline or name for social media account, own your home. And I was like, huh, that's interesting. So I clicked on it. And when I tapped on it, it took me to your own your home account on social media. And that's when I saw obviously you, some photos of you, but also these homes that you had converted from like uh fix and flips, I guess they were, right? And the work that you had done, like the before and afters were like astonishing. And I was into real estate a little bit, right? I was a speculator, I had built a um a USA land and investments company. I had at one point over 400 properties all across the United States. And so I had this interest in real estate, and uh I had gotten out because you know, I went through that whole market crash in 2008. But your account intrigued me to think I should probably get back into real estate, you know. I mean, plus, I mean, she don't look half bad anyway, so this would be a good conversation, you know. She looked nice. So I reached out, uh, I literally slid in the DMs, as they say, all right, back in 2020. And uh that sparked the conversation. And we started communicating and talking, and um, I saw I recognized immediately, I recognized your level of intelligence was very high, you know. So that got me really excited, you know, because um when you talk to somebody, you know, you and if they sometimes, you know, they just come off as not that uh not that bright. And it's nothing against them, it's just that maybe they're sharper in different topics. But in this particular topic, you weren't fronting, like what you knew is what you knew, like what your account was about was really what you were about. Like you were an expert in this stuff, and I recognized that you weren't fronting, you know, just for views or whatever. And that really excited me and it made me, you know, really attracted to you. And um, you know, I saw that we started having a lot of more consistent conversations and communications. We eventually hopped on the phone and we were talking on the phone quite a bit, and we would talk on the phone for probably like hours, right?
SPEAKER_05Yeah, it got to that point, yeah.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, yeah. Talk on the phone for hours, um, never actually meeting in person. Yeah, you were in Chicago, I was in uh West Fort Lauderdale back then, and then um it was coming pretty close to Valentine's Day. It was, and I knew I didn't have a Valentine's Day date, and so I used a little bit of psychology.
SPEAKER_05Which I didn't know he was using.
SPEAKER_04Well, in sales they call it assume the close. I'm you know, and that's I'm a salesman, so in sales they call it assuming the close.
SPEAKER_06Yeah.
SPEAKER_04So I asked a question, like I would, you know, uh, what are you doing the 13th through the 16th?
SPEAKER_11Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER_04And uh I make sure not to say the word February, not to name the name or title February of, you know, the month, but I wanted to just um establish the days within that month because obviously we knew the month, because if I say February, it might trigger the understanding immediately. But I guess, you know, and you say, Oh, nothing. I said, Okay, great. You know, would you why don't you meet me in the Bahamas? And so that initially started the um the setup of the date, which then I'm pretty sure you recognize, wait a minute, this is Valentine's Day weekend. And um, and I'm pretty sure you recognize it from there and realize, okay, it's Valentine's Day, he's setting up for Valentine's Day. What did you think about that?
SPEAKER_11Oh.
SPEAKER_05Well, I had gotten out of relationship um some months prior. And um that during that time, uh, Valentine's Day wasn't a thing um for us. I wanted it to be. So um when I left that relationship, I, you know, envisioned, you know, every Valentine's Day moving forward and how I wanted to feel. So when you um said, What are you doing? It was like late in January, you're like, what are you doing the 13th through the 16th? I'm like, um, nothing does this guy not know that's Valentine's Day. But I was like, I guess this is for certain he's single, so yay. And so um, so yeah, so I was pretty excited. He was like, you know, well, do you want to go to the Bahamas? And I'm like, by default, I'm gonna be in the Bahamas. I didn't think you knew it was Valentine's Day because the way you act. And I wasn't gonna remind you because I didn't want you to cancel it. So I just rolled with it. I'm like, oh I'm free. So it was pretty awesome. Um, you know, and you're like, you didn't want any strings attached, you just wanted to get to know me. And um, you offered, you know, um to fly me there and and meet there. And it was crazy because it was something like I had never done before. Like I was in, I was completely celibate. I was so committed to, you know, I'm I'm dating to intentionally and I'm gonna take my time. But you it was like Billy Carson, the alien guy, wants me to that I've been watching for years, totally love this guy. He's so intelligent, wants to fly me to the Bahamas. And then I was really nervous because you know, back then they were talking about getting flued out, the young girls and stuff. I called my girlfriend, I was like, girl, I think this is the definition of getting flued out. So I was like, she was like, girl, where are you going? I said, the Bahamas. She was like, girl. She said, you're definitely getting flued out. And I'm like, oh, okay. She said, what you gonna do? And I was like, I don't know. I don't know what, you know, I was like, I want to go. I said, yes. She said, you said yes. I'm like, yeah. And she's like, well, you know, he's a guy, he might want something or whatever. I'm like, whoa. So and I, and so we had that conversation. It was like a huge thing with the girlfriends, and um, then I was like, I don't know how to break it to him, you know. I said, when should I tell him I'm celibate when I get there? Or and she's like, you need to be honest with that man, and you don't want to be in another country, you know, and there's a problem. I was like, okay, so you ended up calling me, and I was about, and this is one, this is another thing we'll talk about later. You always, even back then, just knew something before I even knew it. So I was about to say something. You had called me, and you're like, hey, I just want you to know I got you your own room because I didn't want you to feel uncomfortable. And I was like, really? You're I was like, yeah. You're like, yeah, I don't want you to, you know, think I'm some creep.
SPEAKER_07Yeah.
SPEAKER_05And I'm looking for anything from you. I just want to get to know you. And um, I just thought that'd be a nice environment to get to know you. And you didn't see the other side of the phone, but I was like, Yes. And so I was like, Yeah, thank you. And I played it really cool. Yeah. But oh, I was on a group chat with the girls. I was like, girl. So yeah, so that's how I felt really nervous at first, but then afterwards you made me really comfortable, which you always do even today. Thank you, yeah.
SPEAKER_04So yeah, I wanted to make sure that you had your own separate room. There was no expectations. Uh it wasn't about getting the draws and all this. I just really wanted to get to know you. So that's why I decided to get two suites. I gave you a suite and I got my own suite.
SPEAKER_05Yeah.
SPEAKER_04And that way you'll be comfortable, I'll be comfortable. There'll be no anticipation of any kind of pressure or any kind of requirements.
SPEAKER_05Yeah.
SPEAKER_04This literally was just um, you know, two friends finally meeting and hanging out and having a good time with no expectations.
SPEAKER_05And to let you know, they were two sweets, and I'm not talking about the regular sweet. These are like sweets, okay? So when you're coming in and you're like, sweet, and I opened the door. I was like trying to act all dainty, but that wasn't just it. Like from the moment I landed, I flew there, he put me on first class, okay? And at that time, you know, me, I was still arguing over, you know, levels of coach, okay. I ain't paying no 55 extra dollars. And he, you know, put me on first class. I land, he picks me up in a limo with a driver in the Bahamas with flowers, and I was like trying to play cool. This is during COVID, right? So I had like this mask on, you know, and then I was, you know, able to take it off or whatever, but you know, it was I'm talking about like I still remember to this day the feeling was calm and it was a peace. And it was wow, God, that's what she was doing. You know, it's it's and I realized, and I always say this at that time it hit me like my mantra is there's nothing worse than being with the wrong person when the right one shows up. And when he showed up, I was like, oh, this is the right one. I am so glad I'm single. I am so glad, you know, and and then we get there and you walk into this suite, and it's like, you know, I was fine with a room, you know, but he had a suite and it was he didn't even know me. And he was like, Well, I'm gonna make sure you have that. So at that moment, I saw that he was very generous and thoughtful. Um, and you know, you just don't get that type of generosity, and it wasn't anything I required, but it was just something about him that I saw, you know, in that moment. And I was like, Whoa. Okay. Stay celibate, Seatrace. Anyway, but that's a grown folks conversation. But go ahead. But I did, but go. Yeah, yeah, no.
SPEAKER_04And and truth be told, I mean, you were only you were only fighting over those, and you know, your internal battle over those prices, not because you couldn't afford them, just because um I think it was just psychologically, you know, um coming from where you came from, and I went through that process too. It's like this you almost like I'm gonna save where I can save. And um, you know, so I understand that that process, that thought process. But it was great. It was great to to get there, to you know, come down into customs and so. You in the customs line, you know, for the first time, seeing you in person and everything. And uh we had such a great time. We went to Noble, we took a great photo in front of Nobu. We, you know, we walked all over the property there. Um, we really had a good time. We ate great food, we hung out by the pools, we relaxed, we just had such a great weekend there. Um, you know, it was good. It was good, yeah.
SPEAKER_05Speaking of food, it was good, right? But there's a caveat. So some of you guys may know that Billy used to be vegan for like 30 years, okay, and I'm a vegan. And so when we first were speaking back in 2020, because it took a while before we uh met in person and he was still vegan at that time. But when we got there and we were eating, he ordered chicken. So I'm sitting here, right? I'm like, is that vegan chicken?
SPEAKER_04No, they ain't a vegan chicken. It's bones in this chicken.
SPEAKER_05He could be eating the chicken, like he ain't never had chicken before. He eaten the chicken like he ain't never had it, but also like he done had the chicken. And I'm like, Mr. Carson, um, I thought you were vegan.
SPEAKER_04I was.
SPEAKER_05And he was like, oh yeah, I that was, yeah, I had to change because you know, I had to guide a test and you know, my blood and all this stuff. Now, mind you, I had dated before and I had met a guy. It was like three dudes that kept telling me they were vegan. Like one guy, I'm in the car with him, and I see a Harold's chicken bag. And I'm like, sir, this is Harold's chicken. He was like, no, uh-uh, that ain't no Harold chicken. I said, it literally is a Harold chicken bag. Where's the chicken?
SPEAKER_11Oh God.
SPEAKER_05He goes, Oh, oh man, you know what? I said, I thought you were vegan. He says, Oh man, I just got the fries. I'm like, Oh God. I see the chicken crumbs right here.
SPEAKER_04You left the crumbs.
SPEAKER_05He's like, ah, I left alone. So then, so that's like the third guy. So now, Billy, I'm my girlfriend's already happy. This is the perfect guy for you. You're both vegan. You you don't drink, you don't do this, and all this stuff. And I, and you both like aliens, and so I get there tearing up some chicken. I'm like, not remember the Harold's chicken guy.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, no, I I got the evidence. I I got the I got the vegan photos.
SPEAKER_05So he's like, so now, so after that, I was like, you know what? I get it. You were vegan, you just eat chicken now, so you're a chicken-eating vegan.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, you caught me at the beginning of my transformation atmosphere.
SPEAKER_05Right at the beginning. I'm like, just my luck. But it was fine.
SPEAKER_04It was just chicken and vegetables. I hadn't gotten the other meats yet, but yeah, it was.
SPEAKER_05He's still my chicken-eating vegan. I love you.
SPEAKER_04I eat really good. I eat good, whole, clean food, you know?
SPEAKER_05Yeah.
SPEAKER_04And I don't eat snacks.
SPEAKER_05Nope. That's why I say you're a chicken-eating vegan.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, yeah. Processed food, snacks, and all that stuff. Don't drink, don't smoke, don't do drugs.
SPEAKER_05He's so healthy, like all the food. No processed food. If I eat a candy bar, he like cringes. He's like, oh God, you gotta eat that. So, but no, we have fun with each other. But yeah, so that's how that so that was the only thing that was different there. But it was cool because he was still my, you know, that was my little name I gave him.
SPEAKER_04So yeah, it's okay. It's all good. We got over it and we still we what I liked about you was that we still had a great time. You know, I had started my transformation process with my diet thing or whatever, but well, you didn't hold that against me. We still had a great time. Yeah, we laughed, we joked, we laughed a lot, you know. We we um we had a good time walking the proper the property and the premises and everything, and um and then that weekend came to an end. Yeah, and we came back to the States, and then um you visited me for a couple days, um, which was great, you know.
SPEAKER_11Yeah.
SPEAKER_04Uh I had a brand new house in uh in Parkland at the time. And um, we had a great time there. And then you had to fly back to Chicago.
SPEAKER_11Yeah.
SPEAKER_04So you fly back to Chicago, you're going back to your life. I'm going back to what I normally do. And I know that you had a couple things going on. I think you went to a Joe Despenser retreat and then you traveled.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, but I was gone to Jamaica for two weeks, Joe Disp Joe Despenser for two days. So, like, I think um, yeah, we had a you know, plan of seeing each other again, but the our our um, you know, conversations just kind of dwindled. I was, you know, in that retreat is really, really intensive and it was a phenomenal, but you know, you can't really you're not talking to people and you know, um, throughout that day. And at the end, you know, you're lucky if you get to speak.
SPEAKER_04I remember, yeah, it was hard to get, of course. I mean, I didn't expect to try to force you to talk because you're in a a retreat, nine hour meditations a day. Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_02Oh, wild. Wild.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, yeah. I'm not gonna lie, that kind of have a little, a little bit of effect on because it's this disconnection that begins to happen when you're and you're I'm so busy, so I'm focusing, focusing on all these things, you know. And then we were gonna meet up in Detroit in March. In March, we're gonna meet up in Detroit, and then so second date. Yeah, that would have been our second date, not too far from Chicago.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_04Yeah. And um I decided to make it an in and out because my schedule was so crazy, and I just wanted to get up there, get the job done, and get out of there.
SPEAKER_05Yep.
SPEAKER_04And um, so we switched that up, and I figured I'm just gonna catch up with her, you know, another time and we'll make it into an actual real thing, not just this rushed, you know, you come all the way to Detroit, and then I only got a few hours, you know, and then you're gonna drive all the way back to Chicago. I was like, ah, I don't want to make her do that. She's gonna be uncomfortable and just didn't seem right. I figured maybe I can just find another weekend where we can actually like spend a whole weekend or something, or I'll come visit. Um and then life got to life, and I uh end up going there working on the project that I was working on. Um end up meeting somebody and didn't date them immediately, but in some weird kind of a way, that person ended up down by my house two days later when I got back. Um and um so it was really, I could see, what's the word I'm looking for? Um intentional. Really intentional. And so um my kindness for the situation and that person claimed that they were in with their friends, um, you know, allowed me to to open my my uh my doors up to talk and do this and do that. And I just started ended up dating this person uh and started dating that person. And then of course that meant that our phone calls got less and less until it diminished. And then um I think within that same time period, something else happened on your side.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, so it's this is the crazy thing. Because when he was like, he called me because we had that set, like we talked about that whole situation. He wanted me to try whatever um you know thing it was to do, some biohacking thing. And it was we were we talked in depth about meeting there and um spending a weekend there. And so when he found out I was driving, I he's you know, he basically said, I'm not gonna have you do all that. Um, you know, so you don't have to, you don't, you know, you don't have to come or whatever it is before he got there. And so in that moment when he said that, there was something like you know inside me. I think I don't know if it was women's intuition or whatever, but something felt different, right? Like it just in that moment, I felt like you know, and I can't say what it was. I just remember the feeling was just off. Something off, right? And I was like, huh, okay. Didn't think about it anymore, didn't think about the feeling. I was like, okay, no problem, we'll you know, see each other later. Now I hadn't seen him in what three weeks or whatever. Um, and you know, and it wasn't anything against him, it was just a weird feeling, like like you know, I just get that. And so I'm like, okay, no problem. And then um 24 hours pass and I don't get a call from him. And I have like this rule if a person does not call me, like these are standards, ladies and gents. If a man does not call you in 24 hours or reach to contact you in 24 hours, you're probably not the one. That's just my thing. But and if you are the one, you don't want someone that doesn't call you for 24 hours. That's in you know, that's an indication of what the relationship's gonna look like.
SPEAKER_07True.
SPEAKER_05And so for me, that was just I just knew what my deal breakers in dating was, so I wouldn't end up in the situation I was in before. Yeah, you know, after dealing with a series of relationships and patterns, you begin to say, okay, let me do this different. And that was one of those for me. And um, and I was like, you know what? It's okay. It wasn't like we were exclusively dating each other or anything. For me, it was okay, he's not the main focus. You know, I kind of okay, I don't know. Y'all might judge me for this, but I have like a lot of brothers and they were all in football. So I and I was the older sister that was kind of like burst. So I associate things with sports. So you know how you have your franchise player, then you got the ones on the bench. But if the player, you know, gets hurt or something, you gotta bring in. So yeah, Billy to to say the least, I wasn't done with him, but he was on the bench. And so he was on the bench. And so I'm not gonna make a call, you know. Um, so I made that decision, you know, and I figured he'd come back around if it's meant. And plus, you know, if it's not, it's okay. And not a big deal to me. I was just, you know, open to other things. Anyway, he talks about two days. Within two days of that, I'm at, well, I'm at home the next day. Now, mind you, I'm supposed to be in Detroit, so I didn't have any plans that week weekend. So I was happened to be home. And my ex came from months prior, came back with the pick a sign and a word breakup in a red circle in the ex saying that he was boycotting our breakup. And he would not leave outside my house, and he continued to come back those two days, boycotting the breakup. He said he's on strike from the breakup. And so finally, after the second or third day, I let him in and talked to him, and he gave me this great bid. And um, I was like, well, I tell you what, we've been together for off and on for a very long time, and um we I want to be married, and I don't know if we're at that level. So, you know, at my age, you know, we can date again, but I'm gonna date other people. Yeah, I'm gonna still be open to date other people. And I I mean, because in another thing, like, you know, Billy was still on the bench, you know. I was like, can't just throw him off the team already. And so I'm just playing. But I mean, but honestly, I was just real with him and I was like, you know what, we'll see. Let's just see how things are. But I was honest, I was like, I'm seeing, I'm intending on seeing other people. I wasn't, I didn't have a lot of time, but you know, just conversation and being open to, but that was, you know, is what it was. So he was like, you know, I got my shot. During that time, he, you know, courted me and um Billy texted me. So that was the difference. So um, and then probably like a month and a half later, um, he proposed.
SPEAKER_07Yeah.
SPEAKER_05And so I ended up engaged. Um, I never had to have the conversation with Billy because Billy never called. He just texted. And what we girls call break crumbing. And so for me, you know, um, I wasn't, he wasn't, I didn't consider him as an option anymore. Um, we were still kind of doing some business together. He was more so talking to parts of my team and my son and stuff like that, but we weren't talking personally, so I never had to have the conversation with him. Hey, I got back with my ex, and he never had to have the conversation with me. Hey, I met someone.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_05Weird. We just kind of both just didn't say nothing.
unknownYeah.
SPEAKER_04And so but we did respect each other's relationship. In other words, I wasn't trying to have my cake and eat it too. I wasn't like trying to talk you and pretend I got contacted by his ex, another ex.
SPEAKER_05Yes. Okay.
SPEAKER_01Right. Yeah.
SPEAKER_05Slid in my DMs, yeah, and she told me what a wonderful, amazing human he is, and how happy she was to see that he found someone because he deserved it. I mean, uh this woman, I mean, she's beautiful. I mean, and I because I looked at her, I'm like, ooh, who's this?
SPEAKER_07Yeah.
SPEAKER_05I got I didn't know who it was. This is a very beautiful person, and she told me that I didn't know who she was, you know, and Billy hadn't mentioned her to me. And she shared with me who she was, and she shared with me why she was contacting me, and she went on to tell me from her experience who this man was. And another thing I'll tell you before when I was manifesting, I said, I need the next man that I'm with, I need the ex to co-sign for it, right?
SPEAKER_04And this is the ex before we before we met the first time.
SPEAKER_05So she says, I smiled so hard watching that video. He's truly happy. I didn't care for that last one, lol. Not that my opinion matters, but I told him from the beginning, you were the one. You're the total package. Thank you for healing his heart and taking care of him. I'm very happy for you both. And I was just stunned and surprised because at the time I didn't know who she was, so I then, you know, reached out to you. But this was my response to her, and I said, Thank you. This warms my heart. I truly appreciate your kind words and support. I just shared this message with him. As from the tone, I could tell you two knew each other. He disclosed to me who you were to him, and that's a true testament of his character. It's funny because before dating him, I said, the next man I commit to, I need a referral from the ex. So I just love how Source works. We're honestly healing each other's heart. I finally feel safe in a relationship, sending you lots of love and light. And then she responds, Thank you so much. Looking forward to our paths crossing one day. As an ex, I can honestly say he has a heart of gold, very kind, very caring, which I'm sure you already know. Tell him I said hi, and please take good care of him, as I know he will do the same with you. Cheers, beautiful. And I said, we'll do. But yeah, super nice, so crazy, completely out of the norm. And that's when I knew, you know, um, yeah, this is exactly the timeline I want to be on.
SPEAKER_04Like I wasn't in a relationship, and you weren't trying to talk to me and pretend like you weren't in a religious-right.
SPEAKER_05We just zoop. One of those, and that's kind of our personalities because we're both flight risk anyway. So we're just kind of very practical people. And I mean, I'm gonna call and make an announcement, you know. No, I mean, if it's not there, and it wasn't like we were, you know, exclusively dating or anything like that, but you know, things just just happen. So yeah.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, so that was our first magical date that we had, and then how it just kind of faded away.
SPEAKER_05Yeah.
SPEAKER_04You were engaged, I was in a relationship, I eventually became engaged. Yeah, I got married, you called your engagement off.
SPEAKER_05In three months, I was out. You're like, you know what?
SPEAKER_04I didn't do that. You know, yeah, just the Virgo and me. She's like, I'm gonna make this work.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, there's nothing wrong with you.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, I know.
SPEAKER_05That's the beauty of you.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, you know, I just wanna, I just wanna, you know, uh, you know, when I can when I'm in something all the way, then I'm like, Yeah, figure this out. So I did everything I possibly could to try to figure it out, you know?
SPEAKER_05Yeah.
SPEAKER_04Um, but everyone's on their own path, you know. So it brings us to the timeline.
SPEAKER_05Timelines.
SPEAKER_04You gotta you came up with this statement. So we're gonna talk a little bit more about this in a second, like this story of how because now obviously you're saying, wait a minute. So you guys aren't together, so how are you together now? What happened? Right, how did this happen? So we're gonna talk about that, but you started talking about dating your timeline, right? And and all of this, and um, this is a statement. Really, it make it made so much sense because I'm always talking about timelines and fractured timelines and the fractal holographic universe and how our thoughts create reality and how our thoughts and our actions change and shift the momentum of the timeline that we're on. And so, yeah, what made you come up with that understanding? How'd you figure that out?
SPEAKER_05Well, you know, I started reading a lot in, you know, quantum physics and creating from the field and parallel universes and things like that. And I I got really deep into that somewhere around um 2022 is I got off all social media, um, and because of a tragedy that happened um in my in my life, yeah, uh, my brother passed away and I didn't understand it. And so I really started diving deep into you know the choices we make and how every choice has a different outcome. Yeah, you know, and and I read that before, but then I started really experiencing it. Um and then the crazy, it was the craziest thing. I ended up seeing this guru that looked exactly like my brother.
SPEAKER_04You showed him to me.
SPEAKER_05Yeah I showed him to you. Oh my God, when I say he looked exactly like my brother, yeah, okay. I it was one of those moments, like I don't know, I didn't want to tell too many people because they thought I was crazy. But when my brother transitioned at just 41, you know, um, I felt like he was robbed, right? I'm like, oh, but I knew I'm like, okay, there's a version of him that is still living. But I ended up, I was scrolling online, and this picture came up of this man that was a guru, and he told this story about how he was really close to his sister, and she gave him a kidney. And one of the issues my brother was having, if he would have survived, we would have had to give him a kidney. And I would have given him a kidney. We were already getting tested for it. But this gentleman, he said, I live because my sister were close, she gave me a kidney, and he talks about that time he went into the hospital and all that. And it was very similar to what my brother had gone through. And so, but he lived. And so I said, I called my sister, I said, Oh my god, I think we merged timelines with Sien's other version of himself that actually lived. Craziest thing ever. I went to see him and he saw my brother, and he I'm enlightenment, like he believed it too. It was, and the story was on track, is almost the same. They just had some differences, you know. Um, and some were very, very similar. And it was just crazy. And I'm like, so I got on this thing, like, what are we? We're all like living right now. I just can't see them because I'm not on that timeline. Yeah, yeah, right. But I felt like I got a taste. So then I started looking at everything in my life as far as timeline. The person when I was younger, the woman that was, you know, homeless and had a choice to, you know, do this or that. She exists. The one that didn't exist. And, you know, now I'm on this timeline. And then I started thinking about, and because I'm single at this time, you know, and then I started applying it to dating. And I looked at my life, and every time it took a turn off of my path, it was because some guy showed up with a mask. You know? And I thought, oh, this is it. And they would always get me off of my course. And I'd go through all of these things and I'd have to, I'd get rid of them, and then I'm back on course. And I'm going and going and going. And I'm like, maybe if I just date someone that's on the same timeline as me, you know, and I'll know from certain instances, I don't have to keep delaying my destiny.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_05And so I went over all the relationships. It seemed like a different, the same spirit and a different body.
SPEAKER_07Yeah.
SPEAKER_05And it was the same lesson. It was this person, anger, alcoholism, cheating, you know, um, overly religious, abuse, you know, all these different things that showed up. And I'm like, wow, these are these tests, these are these distractions. And I'm like, no, these are these tests and these versions of me that I'm seeing that I have to overcome. And I have to recognize those things. They just show up for that. But I go, oh my God, you're the love of my life.
SPEAKER_11Yeah.
SPEAKER_05It doesn't matter if you're, you know, ah, you just got out of prison after seven years. That's okay. We all deserve second chances. What'd you know what I'm saying? Like, oh, you just, you know, whatever. Oh, you drink profusely on a day. That's all right. I used to drink too. Look at me, I'm sober. I can help you. You know, nine times out of ten, however the state you find a person, and you think you can help them come in your shape. No, you're gonna end up more so in theirs. That's right. Their situation. That's right. And on their timeline. It's very rare that they're gonna rise to the level to be on yours. You know, so so that's when I realized, okay, if I if it could just be so simple. And it's not about judging a person. If I know I have a purpose-driven life, I know that I want to have, you know, these homes for homeless people, these homes for women of domestic abuse and all that things. And then I date someone and they say in their future, you know, the biggest thing they want to do is, and this was a real thing, was go to Great America. You know, these are like we're adults, these are, you know, rides, joy rides. Yeah, these are literal like joy rides, you know. And that was like their main goal. I just want to get a season pass to this and this, and this is my goal in life. And there's nothing wrong with that. But if my goal in life is to make the world a better place, it's very hard to make someone without purpose understand your purpose. So that's when I said, okay, uh, leading up before you, I started dating, having these little micro relationships. So within two months, you pretty much know if you're on the same timeline or not, or if this person is for you.
SPEAKER_11Yeah.
SPEAKER_05Based on and it's not being judgmental because someone will love them exactly as they are. But that doesn't mean they're for you or your destiny. Right. Now you can always learn from these people, but you know, usually it's a distraction from your destiny. And those situations have to end. And unfortunately, sometimes they're very painful. And personally, I was tired of the pain.
SPEAKER_11Yeah.
SPEAKER_05So I was like, I'm getting out early. If if this is what I want, this is what I'm looking for, and this is the journey I'm on. And if we can't lock in and look at that path together and resonate with each other, no, no more for me. I don't care. You're an alcoholic, you're a smoker, you're doing all that stuff. There's nothing wrong with that. But if that's not my pastime, exactly. My pastime is reading books, the field on quantum physics, yeah. Why am I dating someone that never reads? Exactly now.
SPEAKER_04Exactly, yeah. You have and it make it just makes so much sense. And so once you brought it up to me, and I went back into, like you said, the physics and everything else, all my science, it just I just had this aha moment. I was like, Yeah, you know, yeah. Why didn't I see that before? You know, um, dating your timeline. And I look back at all of my previous relationships, which I learned so much from each individual one, you know, nothing against anybody uh from the past. It's just that each one of them, we just weren't on the same timeline. Yeah, our timelines intersected, yeah, but then because of where they were, water always finds its level. So I then ended up getting drawn into their timeline. And it wasn't because I didn't allow it, because you we only we only allow.
SPEAKER_11Yeah.
SPEAKER_04But I ended up allowing myself to get drawn into their timelines. Uh, and I and I um even though I still consider continue to excel and um and go above and beyond, you know, most people's expectations uh in in in my life and and what they perceive to be the life of a person that's uh growing and building, there's still so much more that I could have had done by now.
SPEAKER_05Yeah.
SPEAKER_04I mean like so much more. And people say, how can there be more? Oh, I already know there is so much more. Like I'm talking about magnitudes more than I could have been. I've I've held myself back to support these people along the way and to and to try to enhance their timelines. And uh so I got drawn into them, you know?
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_04Uh it just makes so much sense. It's so powerful because once you understand dating your timeline, yeah, everything begins to shift. Like I can see it now.
SPEAKER_05Yeah.
SPEAKER_04And so we're gonna get back into the story.
SPEAKER_05Okay.
SPEAKER_04So now, so people are probably saying, well, how the hell are they dating their timeline all of a sudden? What the hell happened? How in the world are they together? So I'm gonna give y'all what they call it, the T.
SPEAKER_05The T.
SPEAKER_06Wait a day, the kids do the I've been waiting to do that for a long time. Is it this finger this finger? I don't know.
SPEAKER_04I'm gonna let you do it because that's too feminine for me. I guess no, you can't. We know you're not.
SPEAKER_06You are all men.
SPEAKER_04So um you know, obviously, you're you you're gone, you came out of your relationship, and um uh I didn't even know it existed, obviously, and you know, and you kind of really didn't really know too much about mine, even though your brothers probably told you that I wasn't one because you had gotten off the internet.
SPEAKER_05I was off the internet for three years.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, yeah. It was crazy.
SPEAKER_05I was off, yeah, you gotta take that timeline. I was off from 2022 to 2020 March of 2025.
SPEAKER_04That's incredible.
SPEAKER_05And I only came back to promote my birthday party.
SPEAKER_04Right. That's incredible. And so that kind of picks off. So um I'll go back to 2024.
SPEAKER_05Yeah.
SPEAKER_04And September of 2024 uh is when a lot of tumultuous things began happening in my life. A lot of things that just weren't in synchronicity for me. Um, and I was on tour in Turkey uh with a group of people, doing a great tour. Um and uh by the time I landed, I already felt like something was a little off.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_04I didn't feel my normal self, you know? And you're talking to a person that never gets sick, and I I I have an award out there for never being sick. I literally never missed, out of eight years of coaching children, 121 kids in sports, never missed a practice, a tournament, you know, uh a game. Oh nothing. And so I was the only coach that had never missed anything because I was never sick, these snotty nose kids never got me sick.
SPEAKER_05I was thinking that. I didn't want to say it out loud. I know, right?
SPEAKER_04I'm like the kids. Yeah, these kids ain't never got me sick.
SPEAKER_05Wow.
SPEAKER_04And still to this day, as far as I know, the last time I had a blood test was uh six months ago. I still don't have any antibodies for COVID.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_04So I still haven't got COVID. But back then in 2024, I thought I might have had COVID. I'm like, maybe this is what COVID feels like. Yeah because my skin was hurting. And I remember my son, Justin, was telling me that his skin was hurting.
SPEAKER_11Yeah.
SPEAKER_04I said, I think I got this COVID finally, you know?
SPEAKER_11Yeah.
SPEAKER_04Um, so I'm thinking, well, I'll get over it because everyone else got over it, you know, that I knew. And it just kept getting worse and worse and worse. Um fast forward, uh, I get back to America, I get very ill. I'm I'm really ill. Um even though I don't end up in the hospital right away. It took me two days to get to the hospital. The day that I got to the hospital, thank goodness for one of my employees, Nina, she actually physically put my clothes on my body, picked me up, and put me in a car and made sure that I got to the hospital because I wasn't being taken to the hospital.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_04And that was the same night that I died in the hospital. That was the beginning of like this transformation process for me and this realization. Um I coded for 15 minutes roughly. Um I was gone. I was on the other side. And uh I had crossover three times in that same night, but that third time was the longest time. And um I had uh, you know, uh you know, sepsis. I was trending, my white blood cell blood cell count was trending towards organ failure. Wow. It was trending towards 40. And at 40, you're you know, you're pretty much gone. Um and so I came back. The next day I was laying in that bed trying to figure out what had happened. I was so low on oxygen, I was the color black of this chair because you know we're black people, so we don't turn purple, we turn black. I got blacker.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_04I know people saw me in some podcasts that came out after I got out of the hospital because I did them. I was pitch black.
SPEAKER_05Yeah.
SPEAKER_04And they were like, that's a clone. No, that's just a sick person, you know, trying to recover. I lost 28 pounds in two weeks.
SPEAKER_02Wow.
SPEAKER_04And uh but I was there, you know, in this afterlife place, this crossover um near death experience that I had, these disembodied voices were speaking to me, and they told me that, you know, you can go back, you can stay here forever, but if you go back, it's gonna be hard. And um I said I wanted to go back. And as soon as they as soon as I pronounced back, I was back in the body. And um I it then began to you know come back, and um the doctors the next morning had finally figured out uh a suitable mixture to work on my the bacteria that I had. The bacteria was was very strong. Yeah, whatever this was. And as I researched it later on, I began to realize that it wasn't a normal type of pneumonia, it was something abnormal. Um but anyway, they were able to finally find something to fight it. They had to send my cultures out to a specialist to have a special type of antibiotic created just for the bacteria that I had.
SPEAKER_02Wow.
SPEAKER_04That's how rare it was. And then finally I started getting a little bit better, you know? Yeah, I was struggling pretty bad. And I was just saying there trying to figure out like why what just happened to me. Like, I never get sick. That would have been my now technically my twelfth time in my life.
SPEAKER_11Yeah.
SPEAKER_04Anyway, so the hard part I thought was gonna be recovering. That actually turned out to be the easier part of the hard part.
SPEAKER_11Oh wow.
SPEAKER_04You know, yeah, you know, and um I started identifying things that were going on around me, um, and things within the circle, uh, my my influencer circle, and I just saw things that just didn't add up. Um and then I had this attack situation happen, this online crazy attack that happened, planned attack. Um, and then I had to go through that all while trying to recover. Um, and then moving into the the year, some more um insane things were revealed to me. Uh the universe had revealed some things to me, and um not only myself, but even my team who are here at this house actually in this studio got to witness and see something that was um that was definitely not serving me for my greater good. Okay. And so I made a decision um uh that day that I had to make a change. I had to get out of a relationship that I was in. Uh, I had to move on, and um you know, I didn't recognize it was a timeline, but it was a timeline. I was just on the wrong timeline. Yeah, and uh that was a strong, like a big thing for a Virgo. Yeah, you know, so we lock in.
SPEAKER_05Say it wrong. I mean I think I made a mistake.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, yeah. Yeah, that's tough. And we really lock in, like we we we lock in hard. I mean, you know, your son's a your son Dominic's a Virgo. Uh-huh. We lock in. It's hard. Your sister's a Virgo. Your sister's a Virgo Rather Virgo, you know. My daughter April's a Virgo.
SPEAKER_05My granddaughter.
SPEAKER_04You know, she was in her relationship for 13 years.
SPEAKER_05Wow.
SPEAKER_04It was bad when I couldn't tell her, but you know, I had to just let her ride it out. So she came to the point that I came to.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_04And you know, so I had to take care of that. And um, you know, men never file divorce. I mean, 15%, it's a very low number.
unknownYeah.
SPEAKER_04But, you know, I just felt it was the right thing to do. Um, I got a lot, I I take away whatever positive I could take away from that past relationship and just realized the timeline isn't uh isn't there. The greater good for me and where my life is going just wasn't there. I decided it was just time for me to shift and just move on. Um, but that took a lot of courage.
SPEAKER_05Yeah.
SPEAKER_04You know, it took a lot of courage and um uh it took a lot of strength, fortitude, uh, and um, you know, it was uh a big decision. Now, during this process of me going through all of this transformation and clearing out and re-reorganizing my relationship and my circle and everything else, and um I uh one day my social media manager he says, I need to get a code from your phone for Twitter, which is now called X. So I said, Okay, it's it's weird, it's called X, isn't it? Right. So X. I just thought about that. It's X. It's X. Oh wow. E X, X. It's a method, it's a metal. So I go, okay, I gotta find this phone. It's on the old phone.
SPEAKER_05Yeah.
SPEAKER_04A phone that I didn't have anymore. I had it, but I didn't use it.
SPEAKER_05Yeah.
SPEAKER_04So I go dig this phone out. I finally found it after like a day and a half of searching. I plug it in, get it charged up. I'm gonna get him this code. As soon as the phone charges up and I turn it on, I open up the phone to tell him to go ahead and you know request the code again because I need a new code. And I saw a text message in there from Seatrus, you. I said, What in the world? I ain't talked to this woman in years. Hey, what's up, everybody? It's Billy Carson, aka Forbidden Knowledge. I wanted to talk to you guys today about the 12-day Forbidden Tour of Egypt. This is not your average Egypt tour. This is a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity hosted by myself, Billy Carson. We're gonna go beyond the tourist traps. We've secured private closed door access to the Sphinx, the Assyrian Temple, the Esna Temple, the Serapiem, and also the Steppe Pyramid in Saqqara. Of course, we're gonna visit the Great Pyramid and spend a lot of time in there doing great meditations and exploring underneath the shafts, deep beneath the pyramid itself. You'll stay in the five-star hotel. We're also gonna pool down the Nile in complete luxury on our brand new ship. Every day is packed with sacred site visits, exclusive lectures, ancient wisdom, gourmet food, and of course, spiritual connections, and you're gonna create incredible friends that will last a lifetime, I guarantee it. Last year, over 100 people joined us, and every single one of them left completely changed forever. Now only a handful of seats remain, so make sure you hurry up and join us on this amazing journey before it sells out. If you've ever dreamed about walking the path of the ancients, now is your chance. Make sure you register today to reserve your spot before it's all gone. I can't wait to see you in Egypt. It's gonna be amazing. I guarantee it's gonna change your life.
SPEAKER_05Well, you know, he's a guy, he might want something or whatever. I'm like, whoa. Yeah, tell me what happened before that.
SPEAKER_04Uh, which one?
SPEAKER_05Which one? And I'm gonna share this because I want you guys to understand dating your timeline, what it looks like when you finally meet someone on your same timeline. Yeah. So our story is super romantic.
SPEAKER_04Yes, yeah, yes, yes.
SPEAKER_05And he promised me that he would love me, he would care for me, he would protect me, and he would make me happy if I gave him a chance because I deserved it, and so did he. I try to laugh because this is my wall. I'm trying not to cry. But the therapist told me that. I don't know, I think it's good coping.
SPEAKER_04But and I I knew that what you were dealing with and how you were dealing with it and how you were being handled wasn't appropriate.
SPEAKER_05And when he spoke to me, he touched my soul.
SPEAKER_04Hypothesis was that both of us had been through so much past relationship trauma and had experienced so much adversity that when we got together, it was like, no, this is too easy. And I saw a text message in there from Seatris, you. I said, What in the world? I ain't talked to this woman in years. What are you doing, Billy?
SPEAKER_06She's gonna keep telling me story. Okay, go ahead. So how do you tell it?
SPEAKER_04So I tap on this message, open it up, and uh you were extremely, in my opinion, the way I felt, the way I read it in my ear, in my mind's eye, it seemed like you were a little upset. You were a little upset. Uh you said that your ex, and I was getting this code for ex, by the way, which is the craziest scenario. I just realized that on this podcast.
SPEAKER_05I didn't say your ex.
SPEAKER_04You didn't say ex? You said your wife.
SPEAKER_05Yeah.
SPEAKER_04I said my ex. Oh, I meant to say my ex. Yeah, you're exactly a mess. Yeah, my ex has sent you a message.
SPEAKER_05Yeah.
SPEAKER_04And I'm sitting thinking now, my ex and it's it's um ex on the code was for ex, the the in the social media account. But had sent you a message. And I'm like, how in the world would my ex send her a message? You know, I'm thinking, like, why, how, that that's impossible. Now you put your wife in there, but I'm saying X because at that point, just my ex, you know? And um, and I'm thinking, how in the world does she even know this that you exist?
SPEAKER_05Right.
SPEAKER_04And then I said, can you please send me a screenshot of this message that you got? It was an ad. It was a marketing ad. So you sent the marketing and said, This this phone number is a private number. I don't give this number out. I don't, I didn't subscribe to this because it said you had subscribed and you clearly didn't. And it was a marketing ad for my ex's new company. And I was like, How in the world did she get this? And then it dawned on me, oh, you still, of course, you were in my text message database for forbidden knowledge because that's how we met. You like forbidden knowledge? I have that text message number for forbidden knowledge, which is my marketing text, SMS company, and then my personal number because we used to talk. So I said, Oh my God, that's crazy. And that's how I found out that there was a situation where you know my database was being utilized without my without my knowledge to market other stuff. Um, and so I uh after you sent me back the information and showed me what the text said, I was kind of stunned, a little embarrassed. I apologized. And then um uh that's when we you know started our communication. So you can tell your perspective on it.
SPEAKER_05Let me tell my perspective. Men have a funny way of seeing things. I think they just see us as unhinged.
SPEAKER_04Anyway. It could have been my PTSD.
SPEAKER_05It could have been, but from that situation. So, you know, or I think it could have been guilt from the previous thinking, because you know, you probably may have thought I had, you know, some type of feelings about whatever. Oh, maybe maybe subconsciously. I didn't think it was not that I didn't have an attitude because he knew he ain't called me for 24 hours.
SPEAKER_04No, no, I gave you a message.
SPEAKER_05I'm taking somebody to the Bahamas giving them sweets. Okay, anyway, that's for the next Viking. Anyway, so what I for me, disclaimer, I was not upset when I sent that text message.
SPEAKER_04I believe you now.
SPEAKER_05When I he don't believe me because he keeps telling the story that I was upset.
SPEAKER_04I thought you were, so I gotta tell what I felt in that moment.
SPEAKER_05Oh, what he felt in that moment. Yeah. But he just said, okay, anyway. I was not upset. The message simply read, okay, and we're gonna show this message, and you guys come up with what you think it was. All I said was, hi, just received a message from your wife. Um, this is my personal number. Please remove me from your database as it's my private number, you know, and I only use it for certain things, something to that matter. Thank you, and hope you've been well. That's all I said.
SPEAKER_11Yeah.
SPEAKER_05I will show that to prove that's all I said. And I left it alone. I wasn't caring, I wasn't thinking about anything. I just was annoyed because I it wasn't that particular thing. It's just, you know how you just get annoyed when you get advertisements on your phone, and I thought I had cleaned up all the spam, and then here I go, and I'm like, and it's like, oh, such and such cursion. I'm like, oh geez, now they're gonna market me on the new companies. And I'm like, I'm like, here I go. So I just asked, I'm like, oh, probably, you know, and I didn't want a series of that to happen. So I still had his, which I didn't know was his old number because again, I never called him again after that. And I just sent that message to remove me from the database. That was it. I was happy in that moment. I was planning an amazing birthday party. Um, I was frolicking at 50 in Beverly Hills. I was not mad at anyone, I was happy about life. So anyway, a couple weeks later, I sent a message, whatever, um, and didn't think about it, didn't think past go, you know, didn't even think about that. I didn't get a response or anything like that. I completely forgot about the message I sent. And so I'm driving down, I live in California, so I'm driving down to 405, and my phone rings and it says Billy Carson. And I look up the phone and I look at the exit and it says Carson West. And I'm like, whoa, that's a sign, and I'm living West. Cool. Hey, hello? And then he's like, hey, how you doing? I'm like, wow, amazing to hear from you, you know, and woo-woo-da-bam. He tells me his story. He tells me I tell him everything. He's like, Oh, I'm sorry, that's actually my ex. Can you send me that? I'm like, oh wow, you're not married anymore. Now, mind you, I've been off of social media that whole time. So I'm not seeing him. I don't know where the life went. And so he's telling me the story. And I feel, you know, just sad because I'm a hopeless romantic. I don't like to hear anyone, you know, it's think they found love and it doesn't work because at the time I'm in, you know, bliss pre planning this Bridgerton romantic, hopeless romantic themed birthday party. And so I didn't know what to say. You know, I don't know how to comfort people. How do you comfort a person that's gone through a lot? And you're like on cloud nine, you know. So I'm like, well, I'm having a party if you want to come, you know, and he's like, you know what kind of party? So I told him, I told him the whole story about this party. That's a whole other conversation. But it was like a really big deal at my 50th birthday party. And he lives in Florida. I live in California. So I didn't know if he was gonna come. And I was like, but you could come, you know. And um, you know, and and I was like, you could, you know, there's gonna be a lot of single women there, it's gonna be, you know, great or whatever. Just come and just, you know, have fun. There's gonna be a lot of different people there. And he's like, Well, I'm I'm gonna be in Turkey, so I'll see, you know, I'm not sure if this is gonna happen with the war or something like that.
SPEAKER_04They were abducting uh people or some tourists got abducted by some Syrian rebels, and I was like, you know.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, it was a rebellion. And then he calls me, he's like, Well, I'll let you know. So I'm like, okay, so I send them my um invite, which is totally feminine. I'm like, ah, he's not again. Calls me back and is like, hey, I'm coming to your party. I canceled my trip. And I'm like, whoa, I'm out here talking. Look, y'all see, I'm not used to this, right? I'm all but anyway, so so I'm you know, super excited. I call my brothers who are huge fans of his. After that, all the friends were coming because they knew Billy was coming to my party. So I was super excited about that. But yeah, so he ended up um coming, and yeah, yeah, it was pretty interesting.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, it was a Bridgerton party, which I didn't know what the heck I had never seen Bridgerton, never heard of a Bridgerton, didn't know what a Bridgerton was. Yeah, I find out now that it's a global phenomenon, so I've been living in a box, obviously.
SPEAKER_05Yeah.
SPEAKER_04Um, I'm one of those rare people that you know, though. I just like how many movies have I not seen yet?
SPEAKER_05Right, right.
SPEAKER_04I mean, I just saw coming to America a couple years ago.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, that's a problem.
SPEAKER_04So I'm here to help. Okay.
SPEAKER_05I'm the sending master of joy.
SPEAKER_04So so a border of kind of people, right? But um, so uh I said, okay, what is this? And and you, you know, I said, you know, you know, what's your Lord's name and all this stuff? Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_05So I think you get to I said, Well, I'm Lord Anke here. I'm probably Lord Anke.
SPEAKER_04I feel like Lord Anke. I'm filling out all I'm filling out so much information for this part. I had never done this before.
SPEAKER_05Yeah.
SPEAKER_04And then I found out I have to get this Bridgerton type of uh outfit.
SPEAKER_05Yeah.
SPEAKER_04So I end up going and I find this um this Bridgerton like type clothing. And it's pretty cool. Yeah, it's been pretty cool stuff. You know, I get the jacket with the big collar and uh, you know, all the style the style, you know. And uh it was nice. And I showed up, I came, I came.
SPEAKER_05You know, you want to tell them what happened before that?
SPEAKER_04Uh which one?
SPEAKER_05Which one?
SPEAKER_04Oh, the flight.
SPEAKER_05So our story is super romantic.
SPEAKER_04Yes, yeah, yes, yes.
SPEAKER_05So we can share that.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, we can share that. We can share that.
SPEAKER_05So, and I'm gonna share this because I want you guys to understand dating your timeline, what it looks like when you finally meet someone on your same timeline. Yeah. And Billy is a good job of seeing things once he figures things out. Now, mind you, like I said, I was frolicking in Beverly Hills, okay?
SPEAKER_04In billion dollar mansions.
SPEAKER_05Oh, what was that?
SPEAKER_04In a billion-dollar mansions.
SPEAKER_05Oh, yeah. Okay. So at the time he called me, he calls me back and he goes, So, am I um accompanying you to this birthday party or am I just showing up as a regular guest? I'm like, uh, it was so funny to me. And so he thought I wouldn't have a date.
SPEAKER_04I gotta shoot my shop before.
SPEAKER_05So I'm kidding, I'm kidding. So anyway, at the time I did. I was like, no, it's okay. I have a date, but thank you, you know. But there will be a lot of, you know, um, you know, single people.
SPEAKER_04He kept trying to pawn me off on these other women. I don't care about them ladies.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, but you know, I'm just willy-nilly in I'm just in my zone, you know. I know. And so I'm not thinking, you know, there's gonna be something after all this time or anything like that. Because I did tell them we were talking, and I was like, you know, let's just remain friends and always stay in each other's lives. There's a lot we can do with each other. There's a lot of, you know, um, you know, you know, familiarity there. Um, and we're both on the same path when it comes to just helping people, you know, and I have a mission, you know, which and he and I had one together and we were talking about that. So we just continue to speak and and try to do some business together and and remain friends through that because this is a little bit before the party. Um, so I at that time was, you know, not knowing I was I was transitioning out of a relationship. In that moment, I was in a relationship and very, very happy. Um, it was a newer one, it wasn't like something I was in long term, but I thought, oh, this is the one again, you know, was on the wrong timeline. Didn't think I was on the wrong timeline, but um things were revealed, you know. And so um, so I didn't end up, you know, uh being with that person. However, before the party, um, you know, Billy sent me this amaz this video.
SPEAKER_04Yeah. And um I think I was in Amsterdam at the time. I was at the I was teaching at the Mine Valley University for a week in Amsterdam. Yeah.
SPEAKER_05Yeah. Yeah, he was in Amsterdam, and he sent me this video, and I remember looking at the video because you told me you're in Amsterdam, and I was like, he's across the country, you know, and I was like, and so he he he gives me this message, this very heartfelt message, and I wasn't I wasn't expecting it. And it said something like, and and we can play a part of it at another time, but he basically said, you know, he didn't know my situation or if I was in a relationship or how serious it was if I was, but you know, um basically we deserved each other. And he told me that it was time for me to stop being a slave in that in relationships, and he knows that I've been because he was too. He's constantly giving and giving, and and the person not seeing my value, and he promised me that he would love me, he would care for me, he would protect me, and he would make me happy if I gave him a chance, because I deserved it, and so did he. And he said more than that, and it was crazy because when my father died, I was in the wrong relationship, I was in the wrong timeline. And I've been an independent woman, I'm very successful. I I it it's hard for me to say that, you know, over the past few years I've been saying, reaffirming that because you do it from survival. But I was very successful and I was one of those women that were like, I could have a husband or not have a husband. I'll be okay because I have the love of my children, my friends, and my family. So if I never get married, it's okay, you know, because God has taken care of me and I've known love, I've lost love, but you know, a relationship, a husband isn't necessary because I, you know, am all events until my father died. And when my father died, the way I was handled in that situation made me realize that, and I'm so grateful for that situation because it made me realize the purpose of your mate. And the purpose of your mate is someone that can hold your soul when it's broken. You can't get that from your friends, your kids, your parents, siblings. The only person that has that ability is your mate. And that's a spiritual union when it's right, and they're gonna know. And it's not something that they say, it's just their presence. And what I needed in that moment when my soul was in pieces, was just to be held in that presence. But being with the wrong person is not gonna be able to recognize when your soul is broken because they're not touching it. Yeah, so that's when I knew I'm on the wrong timeline. Now, mind you, after realizing that, I didn't know at the time I was on the wrong timeline, but I knew I was with the wrong person, and I blame myself. I said, you know what? This is why it's very important to choose the right person. So when these tragedies and these things in life that we don't prepare for happen, you have the right person by your side and you can move through those things with, and they have the capacity to love you through that. Not everyone has the capacity to deal with what your journey looks like. And I think there's they said, too much is given, much is required. And chosen people like myself and like him are that. And so when I realized that, that was fine. Now I didn't think about that again until Billy sent me that video. And when he spoke to me, he touched my soul. And when the video was over, he sent me this song, A Thousand Years, which I love that song from Twilight. And I'm a hopeless romantic, and I'm planning this weekend of Bridgerton and horse-drawn carriages, and Billy Carson has come back, and it's like, you deserve love, Beatrice. And I'm like, And so I try to laugh because it's my wall. I'm trying not to cry, but a therapist told me that. I don't know, I think it's good coping. But anyways, so he touched, he literally reached this man. I'm like, this man doesn't even know me. And he reached in my soul and just massaged it. And he and I felt it and I was just in tears. And um, and I was at that point very, very confused, and um, and I just responded, thank you. That was beautiful. I didn't have much to say after that.
SPEAKER_11Then you can tell.
SPEAKER_04Yeah. So that was, you know, and the reason, you know, I got on a flight. I got on a flight, yeah, but the reason why I um, you know, I I resonated so much with you and what I anticipated or felt like just in my core you were dealing with, I can't really explain it. It's just this knowing, you know? It's just on this understanding. And I I knew that what you were dealing with and how you were dealing with and how you were being handled wasn't appropriate. And so because I had picked up on that, whether it be through uh empathically or whatever, I just knew it. I knew it in my core, you know. And that's why I sent you that. And I didn't want to send it as a text, I wanted to send it to you as a video, which is why I sent you a video, you know. Um and I get got back and um from Amsterdam and teaching for a whole week straight at Amsterdam Un at uh Myan Valley University, which was a lot of work. It was great, had a great time though. And um on the beach in Fort Lauderdale in the morning, and um something just hit me like, you need to go see this woman right now. Now, of course, you live in California. Yeah, so I'm already in Fort Lauderdale Beach. Uh I'm at the four seasons like I always do on the weekends if I'm around. And I'm walking up and down the beach, and I said, you know what, I need to go there right now. So I literally pulled my phone out, bought a plane ticket, drove straight to the airport, well, got an Uber straight to the airport, and hopped on a plane to fly straight to California. And uh and then I got thwarted. I said, hey, uh as I got closer to California, I said, this is kind of creepy and weird. I started feeling real strange. Like, I was like, what the hell am I doing? Why am I doing this? And what I started feeling like I knew what I was doing, but I started feeling like you might be like judging me, like, how dare you just come halfway across the world to come see me. So, you know, long story short, do I land? And um I tried I contacted you before I landed, and I wasn't letting you know, you know, that I was gonna be there, and you were like, Are you coming for work? I was like, no. And you told me, you know, that um um obviously, unfortunately, you had some plans and um you were already uh it was uh somebody you were dating, it was their birthday. And um, and you were like, I just can't, you know, in good uh in respect for this person, I can't I can't come see you. And I was like, I understand totally. And um I bought myself a ticket while I was sitting in the gate that I had just landed at, and I walked to another gate and I got back on another plane.
SPEAKER_05Oh my god, that was crazy because I was like, Well, where are you? Like, are you staying overnight or are you you're like nope, I'm heading back. I'm like, what? So you really flew here for just me? Yeah, and then I was in tears all over again. I'm like, ah, you know, this is so romantic. And then, you know, but in the end, you know, I had to, you know, for me, stay true to, you know, the commitment of myself. And, you know, and then I remember calling him, and we were talking because we're still friends leading up to this. Yeah, and afterwards we spoke, and he apologized. Like, I'm so sorry, I don't know what over came over me. And I'm like, you know, thank you for that, you know. And I said, Do you think what happened with us before um is happening now for me because I'm seeing someone and then you're showing up. Is this a distraction like what happened with us? You know, because after the video, I'm like, okay, we're so in alignment. Because even when we were dating, like it was just so easy. But I just don't, we both are like, I don't even know how it happened, it just didn't happen.
SPEAKER_04Well, I had a, you know, not to cut you off, but my hypothesis was that both of us have been through so much past relationship relationship trauma and had experienced so much adversity, yeah, that when we got together, it was like, nah, this is just too easy. Oh my god, yeah, this ain't real. You know, this is too easy. She's too nice, you I'm a chicken eating vegan, she's too nice, and you know, and and I was like, nah, it's no way. Nothing wrong. And so it's that um that those past experiences were playing in our current moment.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_04Also, like I was telling you too before you go on, it's like at that time, if we would have gotten together back then, yeah, we would have been broken up by now because not because I'm a bad person or I would have been cheating or anything. I don't do that kind of stuff, but my the way that I understand a relationship, the level of patience I've been able to obtain, and also the amount of work that I did on myself was monumentous. You know, I had worked on so many other areas of my life before, but I had never really worked on myself in terms of going back and clearing traumas and triggers and things like that. And I had taken my whole my whole self-improvement to another level.
SPEAKER_05Yeah.
SPEAKER_04And so that put me in a, I knew that would put me in a great position for the next person that I that I you know that I met. But back then, I wasn't on that level yet.
SPEAKER_11Yeah.
SPEAKER_04Um, and so I don't know how it could have worked out, but possibly um being the where I was at that time to where I'm I am now, I feel like I'm two totally different people.
SPEAKER_05Yeah.
SPEAKER_04Yeah.
SPEAKER_05Yeah. Yeah. And that's what I was asking, because I was like, okay, do you think because at that time it was really weird that he met his ex, and if and if I would have gone with him, it would have been a completely different timeline.
SPEAKER_11Yeah.
SPEAKER_05I wouldn't have been home for my ex to even win me back.
unknownRight.
SPEAKER_05Right? Yeah. And he wouldn't have been in a position to where, you know, he was able to be open to meet someone. Well, that particular someone. I I don't know what that timeline would have looked like, but I know at that point, I don't think the opportunity would have been there for either of our exes.
SPEAKER_04Exactly.
SPEAKER_05At that point. So when he came around, and I'm thinking this person that I'm with at the time was my person, and then he's coming. I'm like, is this one of those situations that comes to thwart my destiny?
SPEAKER_11Right.
SPEAKER_05You know, and what better person to send than this tall, dark, handsome, intelligent alien man that I always had a crush on. But anyway. Uh, and and so anyway, so I, you know, I I I didn't get, you know, you know, it was just very interesting in my life. My brother was so funny. My brother, I confide in him a lot in things. And he just loves Billy. And I told him the situation, and he was so funny. He was like, oh, geez, I can't get somebody to go to McDonald's with. I mean, you got freaking this guy and Billy flying to see you. He was like, wow. He was like, I can't even tell you what a choice to make. And so it was it was very different for me. Um, I prayed actually, because I knew that at this point in my life, going into my 50s, that it was very important that I made the right decision in a partner because I wasn't gonna keep getting these chances to get it right. I just knew that. So I say, God, are you bringing this to me to pay attention to the situation I'm in because it's not the situation, or is this, you know, whatever. So I got on my knees and I prayed. I rarely get on my knees to pray. I'm more of a commanding type of speak things and resistance. But it had been years since I had gotten on my knees and prayed. And I prayed. And I asked God to reveal to me and guide me. And if he showed me and gave me signs, I'd be obedient and follow that. And I kid you not, what did I say that prayer for? Man, did a mask come off of the person that I met. And then I tried to stick it out, and then even a week later, I mean, it was what I found out was like, okay, no. And the thing about it, even people were like, yeah, but you can deal with that because this person was also a very, you know, well-known person as well. And, you know, very extremely successful and known. And it was one of those situations that the regular person, especially a woman, is not just gonna walk away from for or the reason I walked away from it. And for me, that was just one of my standards and deal breakers that, and which I won't Share what that is. Um, but I was like, no, this is, and I knew it was like almost a test from the universe. Are you ready? Are you truly ready for what you say you're ready for? And I just, and I knew without a shadow of a doubt, I didn't care how many benefits or how it looked for me, I did not want this as a part of my life anymore. Had nothing to do with Billy, had nothing to do with anyone else. And that was it. I ended that relationship. So by the time my party came and saw him again, I was single. I had never didn't tell him. Nope.
SPEAKER_04He didn't know. I had no idea.
SPEAKER_05He didn't know because I'm of the mindset of, you know, I'm just getting working through that and stuff. And I don't believe I'm not one of those grass is greener on other side situations. So so yeah, so I didn't tell him. And then at the end of that week, and it was like a three-day week, and um, he was just being a friend to me, you know, even leading up to that, he was just, we were talking and still just being friends. And um, by the end of that weekend, you know, I was kind of, you know, looking at him again because he wasn't looking at anyone else. And then at the end, and it was just, he was just, you know, making sure I was okay and everything. And we just by that on the boat and stuff, by the end of that, that connection was there again. I was still very afraid, um, and not necessarily really ready, but I felt that connection again. Yeah, yeah. By that third day.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, actually, I I understood everything. I just wanted to take it slow because you know, I'm not a I'm not a a rush kind of guy, you know. And so uh I recognized that. And I even told you, I said, look, you know, if you're not, I'm gonna wait till you're ready, you know. And I'm just gonna I did. I told you I'll wait, you know, and I'll be here and I won't see anybody else until you're ready uh to, you know, to to come see me and to date, you know.
SPEAKER_05And I said, what if I don't choose to date you though, Billy Carson? You just gonna wait for me to even what if I'm not choosing it, what if it's not, I'm just you know, we just stay friends. You said, well, that's a chance I'm willing to take. I'm not going to, you know, I'm not gonna, you said specifically, I'm not gonna lose you this time. Yeah. And when he said that, I said, ooh, mommy is lost here. Okay. But very head, Seatrus, you know, yeah, no rushing in anything. And and you did. And then, like, you know, a month goes by and you're like, letting you're like, hey, do you want to go to Egypt? And I was supposed to be in Italy.
SPEAKER_04Well, you didn't tell them what I gave you for your birthday, huh?
SPEAKER_05Oh, which part? Which one? Oh, okay. Oh yeah. So, oh I'm so glad you're gonna make me cry again. It's probably why, because it's supposed to be okay. All right, where's the camera? I gotta look directly in this camera. So, okay. Now remember I was telling you guys about finding somebody that can hold your soul when it's broken. Okay, that was one thing. But I had another requirement, which was very, very important to me. And it was that I wanted a man to love me so much, okay? I mean, not necessarily love me so much, but want to see me happy. It's very important that you get a person that likes you and wants to see you happy, okay? That's very important. I'm a person that everybody in my life, friends, family, cousins, everything, I make it a point. I want to see them happy. My joy comes from seeing the people I love happy. But I said, I don't know what it is to experience me, right? And so I wanted to meet someone that felt the way I felt, which is it's so important to me to make you happy, to make sure you're enjoying life, to make sure that you know you you wake up and look forward to the day if I can contribute to that. And I wanted a person that could do that. And I said to myself, I want a man that wants to see me happy and wants to give me the world. And the only reason he doesn't give me the moon and stars is because he can't reach them. That was very important to me. And I told my girlfriend that she says, Oh, you're crazy. So you asked for too much. I said, I'm not. I was like, because I've become what I expect. That's how I love. So if I can embody that, you can't tell me by law of attraction, I can't attract that. I want to experience what it's like to be loved by me, how I love. And so that was it. Do you guys know that for my birthday gift? Billy figured, gave me this gift, and it was a star named after me. Leave it to Billy Carson to figure out how to give you the stars.
SPEAKER_11A real star.
SPEAKER_05A real freaking star. And he didn't even know that's what I desired. And I said, oh yeah. All right, sorry. Y'all get interested in another side of me. I get a little hype. But yeah, so it was like gave me a star. He figured out how to give me the star. I was like, and also I called my girlfriend. I said, You remember you telling me he was asking me for I was asked for too much? Your girl got a star. What do you mean? How you gonna get a star? And I told her, tears, we're crying, I'm crying. I'm like, you're crying, I'm crying, we're crying. And so it was really, it's just amazing when you date your timeline. So that's how like those different signs, and that was just the first gift. And so that was so thoughtful, and it's and I can still see my star, it's named after me, Seatrice. And I and he framed it. He sent me one. There's one at my house, and then when I got to his house, there is one there. And it was just a thoughtful, like you don't meet people like that, man. Like that's when I said, okay, God's like, so that's why I say speak what you want into existence and all that. And when it does not look like that, get out of there because you don't want to be with the wrong person when the right one shows up. Period. Like this is how can it not be my timeline? And another way to recognize your timeline is that when talking to him, we had a lot of similarities growing up. He was kicked out at 16, I was kicked out at 16. You know, um, there was a, you know, some some journeys we went through with similar things with, you know, um past relationships that were similar things, and then it just brought us here. And here we are. We it's crazy. Like neither one of us drink.
SPEAKER_04No, no drinking, no smoke.
SPEAKER_05Neither one of us smoke.
SPEAKER_04People always say, You, you're high all the time. I'm like, no, I just got sleepy eyes, man.
SPEAKER_05He just got sleepy eyes.
SPEAKER_04I don't smoke nothing.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, and so it's so crazy. It's like, you know, and and but I mean, like I said, there's some differences, right? But our core beliefs, like our children, yeah, you know, he has five children. I have five children, three living, two that passed away. You know, so it it's we just kind of look we got grand, we have grandchildren, and we both have grandchildren, which is amazing. Yeah, we're both earth signs, you know. I started really believing in that stuff. That was interesting to find out how we're in alignment there. Um, you know, he's he's his path is like the four, you know, and our my family, I had it was a family of four, and our numbers add up to four, yeah, you know, so it was just, I mean, there's other things as well, but it was just phenomenal.
SPEAKER_07Yeah.
SPEAKER_05And so after that, I was still nervous, right? Because I was like, uh, you know, and so my, you know, um my brother was, I was went back to my brother again, and I was like, I had a choice between Italy and then he invited me to Egypt. And I'm like, I I don't know is it's gonna be two weeks and spending time with him in Egypt and all that stuff and seeing how that goes. And my brother's like, listen, you're on the fence, go to Egypt with him. You at that moment, you'll see his heart and you'll know who he is, not directly who he is to you, but how he treats others. Just observe him. And I've always been an observer, and he's like, You're gonna see his heart and then make your decision then. I was like, okay. And so when I told him I was going, you know, before then, it was great. I flew down and he just when I got here before Egypt, when I got here, this man literally rolled out the red carpet. Um, he just made everything perfect for me. He had a chef come quick, the chef was even vegan to make a beautiful vegan meal. And I mean, he just put so thought, so much thought into just impressing me. And I'm still confused. Like, you know, I know I'm the bomb.com, but how do you know I'm the bomb.com. And so, you know, it was just like, I'm just kidding. I don't know. It's it's the the bomb.com is in the eye of the beholder, okay? So in all of you are the bomb.com to somebody. Just find your somebody, okay? Be the bomb.com. But be the bomb.com so you can attract the bomb.com.
SPEAKER_04Right.
SPEAKER_05I so I worked very hard to be the bomb.com.
SPEAKER_04Yeah. But yeah. I just wanted to give you, you know, the treatment that I knew that you deserved that I felt like you hadn't really received in a way. And even though you were, you know, you've been around very wealthy people and um and been in many mansions and and and all this, but I understand and know that there's there's um wealth and there's you know um success. But also then, how do you express a certain amount of romantic love within all of that? Yeah, whether you have the wealth or not. Yeah, you know, and that's why I literally put a red carpet out. You know, that's why you know I made sure that when you got here you had slippers for your feet to walk around instead of walking on these cold, hard floors after you take your shoes off. You know, plush, gotta have the plush, you know. They were plush, it was the best slippers ever.
SPEAKER_05I love those slippers.
SPEAKER_04Make sure you had, you know, you you're a vegan and you want to have that food, you know, and um and I wanted it to be not some cheesy restaurant throwing some processed food together, you know. So I had my chef of nine years come over and throw it around and you know, make you a phenomenal meal. I just wanted you to feel like you were at home, you know. I wanted you to feel special. I had your star waiting for you in your closet.
SPEAKER_05He did, and he showed me my closet. I didn't even know I had a closet. He shows me this closet, he calls it a closet. Let me tell you something. This ain't a closet. This is a crib, okay? I'm talking about like I told you guys, like I you can fit a whole family of five in this closet, plus, it's your own bathroom, and it's just set up, and it was just so really thoughtful. Like you said, I've been in a lot of large homes and all that stuff, but this home was really different, and and it was but when you walk through it, it's like taking a journey through his mind, okay? So when I first got here, there's there's all kinds of you know, different, you know, ancient pictures and um artifacts and crystals and things like that, and there was a calmness here, and he just I've never seen a man make a home like this. Usually it's the women that make the home, and he's like, Yeah, I designed this, and I'm like side-eyeing them, yeah, right. I did, you know, and then he started talking about it, and he knew each one and all this stuff, and I'm like, huh, it's crazy. And then another thing I'll tell you about this house. When we were dating back in 2021, I was planning to move to California, and I kept sending him these houses. And when I and I was supposed, I had contracts on these houses, and I had ended up getting engaged, and I lost the contract on this house. And I had been looking, and I mean, this is this beautiful home, toll brothers out in California, and he knew he he saw the house. I mean, I don't know if he paid attention to the house, but I had told him about it, you know, over and over again, like my plans on moving there. And so my kids were looking at this house. I had a contract on this home, and um like I was moving in this home. And then when my ex came back around, I was like, well, you don't, you know, he didn't necessarily want to move to California, so it delayed my move, and I lost the house. But I thought it was worth it. I'm getting married, whatever. We'll get another house. Did not get another house. I lost millions in equity that I could have had, different opportunities there, ended up ending that um engagement after three months, and then also lost that and the house. Um, I ended up moving to California, but not in the area or the house I wanted. And by the time I was settled here and had my bearings and my head together to buy that house, it was like, you know, sold, it was gone, the whole community was sold out, and I couldn't, it took me two years to find that. I get here when I land, and this is the house. The front, the whole layout, same builder, but it's double the size. It's like, whoa. So you don't usually miss your destiny if you get back on track, yeah, you know, and so I'm looking at it and I'm like, all the signs are here. So after eating, I didn't have to wait to Egypt. I'm like, yeah, we go together. We ain't never breaking up. So yeah, this is that's our that's the beginning of our story. But I did go to go to Egypt and saw his heart and when I say, and then being in Egypt and the supernatural things that happened there. And then and it just that's when I knew, and he, I think he knew as well everything that we've gone through led us to these moments.
SPEAKER_11Oh, yeah, for sure.
SPEAKER_05It's prepared us for each other to love each other more, to value each other more.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_05Um, you know, so no regrets of anyone in my past. No, I send peace and love and light to them because I was prepared. And I this was another thing I used to do, and I'm just the last thing I'm gonna say, because I can get long-winded. But really, he's he learned patience. And so I when I would date a guy and I would end it, once I knew they weren't the one, I would say, Well, I'm and I told one guy, he's like, Oh no, you're right. I was like, No, I'm cheating on my husband. Yeah, because once I knew they weren't the one, I'm cheating on my husband because I know I have a husband. I know I made everything, my curves, my mind, my laugh, my imperfections, everything I was made perfectly for someone. You know, my mistakes, my ins and outs, everything, the person that I ultimately end up with, because that's my intention and belief, I made for that person. And so when we were, you know, divinely, and I call that divine, because God will use whomever and whatever, when you step into your purpose and your acceptance of I want a better life, then the universe moves through whomever and however and whatever to get you there. And that's how you know when it happens out of the box like we happened, which is the all the abnormal things, the coincidences that I don't believe in, um, our divine situations to get you where you're supposed to be. And there were just too many signs for us. There was just too much alignment to say that to know that we were supposed, because there was absolutely no way that we were supposed to be together. I right after my party, I was getting off social media again. There was absolutely no way for us to connect again or see each other. It was divinely, it was divine, and that's where I'm at right now. Like I feel that this is there's just something supernatural going on for us.
SPEAKER_04And um, it's um it's a very special relationship. We, you know, I invited you to Egypt. Yes, and um, I said, if she shows up, shows up to Egypt, then that's my girlfriend.
SPEAKER_11Really?
SPEAKER_04Yeah, and then you showed up to Egypt, and as soon as I introduced you, what did I say?
SPEAKER_05He goes, and I wasn't ready for this, right? I'm meeting people, I'm like, hi, how you doing? I'm in the crowd, you know, intermingling with everyone. Everyone was so nice, yeah. And so, and I'm happy, we're at the four seasons, I'm on cloud nine. And he goes, Hey everybody, this is my girlfriend, Seatrus.
SPEAKER_01And I was like, Yep.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, yeah, that's right. Pop McCarla. I'm like, yeah, so that's how he asked me out. Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_04Gotta you gotta assume the close.
SPEAKER_05Yes, yes. Well, I was I was his I was his at hello the moment we landed. I think I I was his, man, I was Billy's in 2020.
SPEAKER_04I know, I know.
SPEAKER_05I was Billy's when he slid and he moonwalked into the DM. I was his. But you know he was mine.
SPEAKER_04I want to tell him something a little bit more about you know what we did, which is a little unique. Um, I don't think a lot of people do this.
SPEAKER_05Yeah.
SPEAKER_04Obviously, both of us are in our 50s, and we are, we're not, you know, I believe in love, even though I've had past relationships that just didn't work out for whatever reason.
SPEAKER_11Yeah.
SPEAKER_04And I'm a person, I'm a I'm a one-woman guy, always have been since I was a little kid. Since I was a teenager, I've always been a one-woman guy. Yeah. I've never been one of those guys that can date five, six, seven women and have all these side chicks and all. I just don't have the energy, the time, the bandwidth, or the morals for it.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_04Um, and um, you know, and uh when I asked asked you to come to Egypt, I also thought, well, maybe, you know, you might be anticipating that, you know, I might, we're gonna be in the same room and everything, the same bed, obviously, because that's the way it's set up. But I also wanted you to feel, again, calm, peace, with no um, you know, no expectations. And I think something that we both did intentionally in this new budding relationship, this new version, was we stayed celibate. We did not have any sex at all for months. Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_05I um well, I gave him disclaimers. I was like, you sure you're gonna be with me because I'm celibate until I'm with someone I can see myself married to. I don't know how long that takes. I'm dating to marry.
SPEAKER_04One of the things that I wanted to, you know, do was be very intentional in this relationship and not running race into having a sexual relationship. I want to really emphasize and learn about creating a friend.
unknownYeah.
SPEAKER_04I thought that was really important to create the friendship first, and you had the same energy as well, you know. Even though we technically didn't really totally discuss it, we just kind of felt it, I think. Um, and um, and then you told me, then you said, okay, this is you know what I'm looking for. Like, this is a few weeks in. And then you told me, like, hey, you know, um uh I'm celibate until these conditions are met or whatever. And uh, but I was in total agreement with it anyway, because I didn't want to race into anything anyway. I was just happy having a relationship with somebody I can confide in, somebody I could talk to, somebody that could be there for me, I could be there for them, and they'll be gonna learn and grow together, you know?
SPEAKER_05Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So basically, I even though I'd had these micro relationships, and even I I was seeing someone while talking to him, I was still celibate. I had been celibate since for four years since I had ended it with my ex. Um, I did have micro relationships that seemed like they would turn into something, but in those relationships, it was still, and they were only like a couple months, like, you know, not long term, super long term. The one um before meeting him was, you know, some months. It was longer, but I was still celibate. Um, as I said, you know, I wanted to be with someone that, you know, that valued me and I knew I could see myself married to before I committed my body again. That was very important to me. And then after speaking uh to Billy about that, he was like, you know, he had been um basically celibate as well, and from what he had shared with me since his last relationship. So we were in alignment there. Um, and he said he was like, he'll wait for me, you know, because again, he didn't, and we were, we waited because we both were like, we don't want to screw it up this time, we don't want to mess it up where we want to know that this is a spiritual relationship because what I've realized in my journey of dating and seeing people is that people are physical friends and spiritual strangers. And that's usually, and that and you find yourself trying to force alignment and misalignment because of the chemistry is so strong. Yeah. Now he and I have both, you know, so it was it was challenging.
SPEAKER_04It was challenging.
SPEAKER_05Being long distance made it a little easier, I'm not gonna lie, but you know, it was very challenging for me. Um, obviously challenging for him. My requirement was this not conditions. I'll give you a little history on why I was celibate and remained celibate. My first time being with a person, that that experience was pretty much traumatic in a sense of not abusive, but in a sense of I wasn't taken care of emotionally as a woman in her first time being in that position. And so what I found was that program constantly running in each relationship, in each encounter. So it was, it was always myself put aside. So I said, knew, I wanted to, I desired, and people thought I was crazy. My girlfriends, everyone thought I was this was a crazy requirement. I wanted to redo my first time. I wanted my first time with this next person to be my last time. And I wanted the experience with him, because at the time I made this decision, I didn't know who it was, to be special. And I wanted someone that would care for my heart and care for me in that space and understand that that was part of my healing. Um, and so that I could break that program from running where there was trauma around that union, which turned into other trauma outside of the relationship, which I strongly believe. And it set the tone for our relationship. And so I didn't want that, and I wanted everything to be different, starting with that most important thing. And so I shared with him kind of how I saw it. And it was up to him however he wanted to. Um, but yeah, he, when we finally got to that point, which was about what, six months?
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_05Six months we stayed celibate.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_05Six months we stayed celibate. Every year. Yeah. Yeah. And this is going on trips, traveling the world, that's right. Staying in the same rooms.
SPEAKER_11That's right.
SPEAKER_05Same beds. Yeah. And so it it was, we definitely, well, almost six months. I think it was like five. Well, the six months since we had saw each other. Since we saw each other dating. By like five months.
SPEAKER_11Right.
SPEAKER_05But but even still, it was um, it was powerful, and he took care of my heart. He took care of this man is consistent. I mean, from beginning to the end, we had that conversation and he shared with me things about him. I made sure I'm taking care of his heart as well. And everything's been different. This is this is why we felt this was important to share. Yeah. I know it doesn't look perfect. I know we're not perfect, but we're perfectly imperfect for each other. Right. Yeah. You know, and but you know, I I just it's not gonna be for everyone, but it's gonna be for the people it needs to be for.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, exactly. You know, you know, I think uh something that's important, people say, well, how can you, you know, how can you have a dating app and how can you now uh you know that teaches about the more engagement and love and true relationship and have a podcast called Date Conscious. How can you, you you know, you've been married before and you had divorces, you know. Well, who better to look to to say, listen, I'm being very vulnerable and saying I was in a few relationships before. I didn't choose the right path, I wasn't on the right timeline.
SPEAKER_06Yeah.
SPEAKER_04This is what I learned, this is how I grew, this is how I became better, and this is how I got on the timeline of true love. And um I think that people need to know that um they don't have to give up. Yeah. You know, me, I'm 54 going on 55, right?
SPEAKER_05Yeah.
SPEAKER_04You just turned 51.
SPEAKER_05Yeah.
SPEAKER_04Um, which is pretty cool because people thought, you know, when they saw our photos online, they thought I was, you know, going after some young chick again.
SPEAKER_05I know. I was like, okay. That's what I think.
SPEAKER_04That's right.
SPEAKER_05This is a I'm a whole grandma, but okay.
SPEAKER_0450 is the new 35.
SPEAKER_05Okay, I mean, that's exactly what it is. We're going with that. It's the new 35. Yes.
SPEAKER_04And um, you know, and so uh, but I think that people just need to know there are a lot of people out there that have been struggling with trying to figure out relationship situations, especially in this current era.
SPEAKER_06Yeah.
SPEAKER_04And I just want them to know, and you, I'm pretty sure you you're the same as our conversations we had, is that yeah, don't give up on love. Um, and um just figure out where um, not only in the past where situations weren't right for your timeline, yeah, but also where you went wrong as well. You know, there's always this delicate polarity of of of balance, and you have to figure out where was it, what trauma links, what situations, why did you make those choices over and over again? Yeah, and when can you begin to recognize the masks? Yeah, and um, and when you see the crack in the mask, why did you stay? And when you see the mask fall off, why did you stay?
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_04Um, I think there's a lot of people out there that are fixers that want to fix others. We want to fix, we want to help, we want to, we want to see them do better, be better, we want to uplift them and get them up to where we are.
SPEAKER_05Yeah.
SPEAKER_04But there's an old adage that I added a little extra to the statement. It says, you can bring a horse to water, but you can't make it drink because you're thirsty. That's the part I added on. And uh that horse is gonna want to have to drink for itself. You can't make the horse go and drink just because you're thirsty for that person. That person has to be willing to, you know, see where they are. And everyone's on their own path, which is fine. It doesn't, it's not that they're right or that they're wrong, it's just everyone's on their own path.
SPEAKER_05Yeah.
SPEAKER_04And eventually that person may find someone on their timeline that is consistent with their frequency and their vibration and where they're headed.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_04But for me and for you, you know, fortunately for us and fortunately for me, I feel like I found someone that's on my timeline, a timeline. And people go, you know, why would you, you, you know, you you just jump out of one thing into another. Not really. I mean, people didn't know this has been announced now over a year and a half ago.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_04You know, and um uh I mean, I'm not a monk, but even though, you know, we we got together and we were celibate. But the thing people need to understand is uh when you get older, yeah, and you're not um a I'm not a playboy, right? So that means that I'm dating intentionally.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_04So I'm not dating just to run out here and just okay, date this one, date, this one, date this one, see how many I can get in the sack or whatever. I'm dating intentionally. So if I'm dating intentionally, that means I'm I'm looking for someone that's on the same frequency and vibration as me. I'm not out here just running the streets.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_04And so when I find somebody, it's not gonna take me 25, 30 years at my age to figure this out anymore.
SPEAKER_05No, it made a month.
SPEAKER_04Right? You know, trial and error. I'm not gonna be 80 years old going, you know, I think I better go find me somebody now. That ain't gonna be me, you know. And uh, and so I think that people might maybe I guess the perception is sometimes they might bring me down into their age brackets, even, you know.
SPEAKER_05Yeah.
SPEAKER_04Even though I'm older, they don't realize um, and I'm not an old man by far. I don't feel old, but you know, I do resonate with a lot of the younger crowd, you know, obviously. Um it's just cruel, it's really great.
SPEAKER_05But um They got time. They got time.
SPEAKER_04You know, we we we're we're we're we're you kind of get to the point where you know what you want, you know? Yeah. And after this last situation that I was in, I recognized and realized that I, okay, I really know what I want. I don't even know why I did that. Um, but I know what I want. Um and it's about, you know, you and I both are we're fixers. We're givers and fixers, and we wanna we wanna see the best in people too. I think that's another thing that we are both working on. Always seeing the best in somebody is very it's also a form of toxicity.
unknownOkay.
SPEAKER_05Yeah. Yeah. I mean, well, my I agree with that. And just to add, um, because I mean that that was powerful. Um, very, very powerful. And because I was like, and I asked you, like, are you sure you're over this person? Are you ready for this? And then you told me, you know, a lot of times before divorce is filed, you know, um, you're fighting for something that's you what you shared is that, you know, is over before the actual action. And yeah, even still with that, I was like, you know, um, let me observe this and and see this, because I wasn't too long out of my situation. I wasn't, you know, as deep as you, of course. But um I also thought that was the one. But what I realized is that, you know, and it was crazy, and this is one of the hardest things to deal with, is like one day you get a revelation and you're like, I'm the problem. Oh, and when I got that realization with, you know, the previous relationship that I was intending on being a lifetime, that's when I said to myself, I spent so much time when I really saw myself in that relationship, and I saw that I how wrong I was. I kept thinking, oh, you know, I'm right, I'm doing all of this, I'm trying to get you to do this, I'm trying to get you to raise up and be this person. And really what I was doing and what I realized for myself is that I was not loving this person unconditionally. I literally looked at this person, and every time I said, okay, you need to change this, I was basically telling them they weren't good enough.
SPEAKER_04Correct.
SPEAKER_05And that, you know, is not was not fair. And when I realized that, you know, why am I trying to force a line misalignment? You know, and then making them suffer through pulling them in a state that they're just not ready for. It's like feeding a baby steak before it's ready. It's eating mashed potatoes, it'll get there. But that's it's not just because I'm at this level and they're there, doesn't mean we're at wrong levels. Doesn't mean that there's, but we're, I'm thinking, like, from my what I realized, and I think you and I talked about this, is that I was projecting my fears and my traumas of, you know, and how we are with our kids.
SPEAKER_07Yeah.
SPEAKER_05Don't, don't go, don't go there because you're gonna get hit and you're gonna do that. Those are our children. Yeah, but our mates, these are grown people that were already raised. And what we would try to do as fixers is try to re-raise grown people.
SPEAKER_07Right.
SPEAKER_05You know, and that's how I realized what I was trying to do. Yeah, and that wasn't fair to them. And they deserve someone that loves them unconditionally.
SPEAKER_07Yes.
SPEAKER_05Like, and they deserve someone, and I even told my ex that you deserve someone that's okay without going on dates and just sitting here, that's okay with this thing or that's okay with that, that does it that wants to live here in this area. You deserve someone that's fine with that. Yeah, it's like, no, no, I don't, no, I don't. I'm like, yes, you do, you know, and and so I left that with no, I don't have any bad feelings on that person. I actually left it with a little bit of guilt, like, whoa, you know, how to I didn't want, you know, sometimes loving someone so much, and I learned just like with my family, my friends, and all that stuff, I'm always trying to get them here. Like, come here, come be, you know, and then our poor mates are like, uh, you know what I'm saying? Like, so I was like, you know what? I'm not doing that anymore. I'm gonna flow. If the person opens up and wants that, you know, then I'm there for them. If they but what I can do is be the example, and if they see something in me that that that resonates with them and that's what they want to do, then they do it. I just love you where you are. Yeah, you know, and like, and I say I just say that, I'll give you an example. You like jerseys, you wear jerseys a lot, okay? I love you in the button down. I know, but you love your jerseys, and you know what I noticed about them jerseys? Yeah, them arms. So I said, wear them jerseys, baby. So I can look at them shoulders. The old me, I've been like, babe, what about a polo? You're not playing basketball. Why do you have a jersey? You know, but the new is like, and then how you are with me. Things I'm sure there's things about me, you're like, no, it's fine. She's you know, and you're and I love that about where we're at right now, yeah, you know, with each other. And we don't try to, you know, in the beginning there was, you know, things we'll talk about that on another podcast, but we work through that stuff and we have grown and healed in such a short period of time with each other.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_05It's just phenomenal. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01That's all I have to say. Yeah.
SPEAKER_05I mean, that's that's this is dating conscious.
SPEAKER_04It's dating conscious, stating your timeline, knowing what you knowing what you want, understanding what you need as well. Yeah, you know, and I know that uh it's not about trying to make someone happy, it's enhancing the existing happiness that's already there. And you and I both get joy seeing each other light up and being happy.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_04You know, and neither one of us is in competition with each other. That's another problem that a lot of relationships have. Yeah, and a lot of my previous relationships have been all about some type of a competition.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_04And the competition thing that's happening, and I've seen it even outside of my relationship, is really a detrimental thing. I don't know if this is a new age thing, or I don't know what this thing is. Yeah, but there are a lot of couples where one couple, one person in the relationship, whether it's the man or the woman, or the man or the man, or whatever, whatever you're in, whatever kind of situationship you're in, doesn't really matter. There's one person that seems to be in some way envious or jealous of the other person and want to be in competition with that person.
SPEAKER_11Yeah.
SPEAKER_04And I could never understand this competition mindset. It's supposed to be collaboration. You know, what I have is yours, what you what you have is mine, and how can we enhance and build and grow together? Not how dare you get notoriety, how dare you become popular, how dare people ask you for photos or selfies, or how dare you become more successful, or how dare you make more money than me, or in these things. And I think that this is becoming like a pandemic. Yeah. This compet this relationship competition thing is just getting out of control. I see it on social media, I'm starting to see it everywhere where it's just competition. Um, and I would just say to people like, you have to recognize like one person might earn more, one person might be better in another area, one person might uh might become famous. Yeah, one person might not become famous.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_04You know? Um one person might excel in one area, and one person might excel in a totally different area.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_04One person might be better at people, you know, a better people person and a communicator, one person might be more reclusive and closed in.
SPEAKER_11Yeah.
SPEAKER_04If you're gonna be with somebody, you're gonna have to be with somebody that you can accept.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_04Live and learn to accept where they are with certain areas that may, to you, from your perception, be bigger or greater or something you might not be able to, in your mind, whatever for whatever reason, achieve. And if you can't, then you have to get out of that relationship. Yeah. You can't stay in a relationship where there's this bent-up envy and jealousy for someone because that's a disservice to the other person. I think that that's happening now across the board. It's a lot of that going on out there, a lot of competition type stuff going on. Um, you know, boss ladies want to be like, I'm, you know, I got this and I got that. I don't need no man, and I'm, and then they got the man, and then they're just taunting the man, and like I, you know, I'm making more than you, and then you got the guys doing it to the women. It's just like this, I've seen it on both sides. I've seen men getting jealous of women in their own relationship, and women getting jealous of men in their own relationship. And this even happened to me before several times. And it's like, wow, this showed me something. Again, like you said, dating your timeline. You're talking about being on the same vibration, the same frequency, you know, and and understanding. And for me, one of the biggest tests was we were in Egypt.
SPEAKER_05Okay.
SPEAKER_04Now, Egypt is a big test because number one, you ain't gonna be on the phone with your girlfriends 24-7, complaining about what's going on and calling your mom and this and that. Ain't nobody to call. We in the Sahara Desert.
SPEAKER_05Okay. Well, not the jungle of the desert.
SPEAKER_04Well, then also, you know, I got to see how you are gonna handle all this attention that I'm gonna get. People literally pulling on me. People want to take a selfie, people want to ask me questions, people want to keep my hold my attention, people want me to eat with them, people want people, people, you know, and and the reason why they're there is because I'm there and they sort of coming to see me. They're coming to be around in my energy, my frequency. They, you know, they're they're um, they're they're vibing with my information. That's why they showed up. That's why they paid for this tour. And so it's my job. You know, I'm I'm working, like I'm on the clock. And I really want to see how you were gonna respond in that kind of environment and situation where I'm being pulled in every direction for two weeks straight, you know, and and I also want you to see how I was gonna try to balance that with you to show you that I still recognize and see that you're there, I'm aware of you, and how I was gonna make the separation and show you some attention, but also I still got to do my job at the same time. And I saw that you really responded well, that you didn't have any anxiety, you didn't have any inhibitions, you were more than willing to uh to take some selfies or photos. You were volunteered to take photos of myself and my fans. Um, you were engaging with the people, they loved you. They finally was like, whew, like, you know, you're that you're motherly, like nurturing energy. I remember the first day we were there, the first day going on tour. I mean, the first day going on tour, the bus is about 6 a.m. or something. The bus is getting ready to pull out. And somebody was late. Who was late?
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_04I don't want to call her name. I'm sorry. Anyway, we love you. She's great. Uh she's also in the 4BK Academy, but she was late.
unknownYeah.
SPEAKER_04And it was getting to the point where we were going to miss our opportunity. People done came from all over the world, you know, obviously. And uh and she just overslept a little bit. It happens, you know. And I just dropped in a live chat. We gotta pull off, they gotta stay home, we're gonna leave them. And I think that freaked her out. I didn't mean to freak her out like that when she saw the group text, you know. Um, I thought, because sometimes we go on these tours and some people just be like, I don't want to go. You know, I'm staying in a hotel. And it even happened later on. People stayed in the hotel. They just didn't go out that those days. They were like, I'm getting some rest. I don't need to go out and see this today. And it's okay. So I didn't mean anything negative or hardcore about it. I was like, man, just leave, let them stay, they'll just miss this today. And she came out and she was, she had a lot of anxiety and she freaked out. And then you literally just got off the bus. You went down to where she was, you embraced her, you held her, and you just talked into her in her ear. I don't know if you know what you were talking about, and you held her for like about three or four minutes and just calmed her all the way down. And everybody in the bus is looking out the bus windows like, what in the world? And you just took this lady from complete panic attack, yeah, all the way down till she was calm and her tears dried up, and you got her up on the bus, and she's a great friend now, you know?
SPEAKER_11Yeah.
SPEAKER_04And everyone saw that. That's day number one going out on tour in what I call the Billy Boot Camp, because it's hardcore out there. Right? And everyone was like, wow, you know, and that was like my first sign of the energy. And then the whole time it was there, you know, you were okay to if I wasn't able to talk to you because I'm teaching, or I'm I'm showing people hieroglyphs, I'm deciphering hieroglyphs and teaching them what this means, or whatever. I'm working and you're just free and you're okay, and you're taking your selfies and your videos, and you're doing your thing. And when I got a chance, I will come back to you and we take photos and videos together. But but you let me be me. You let me be Billy Carson. You didn't suffocate me, you didn't stifle me, you didn't try to stay up under my chin 24-7. You didn't get jealous that people were pulling on me each and every direction. And that's when I said, I took like a big, oh I just took it like an exhale, like, oh my God. Oh my god, you know, so I knew then that this was meant to be. Oh that's when I knew it. Yeah.
SPEAKER_05Oh, that's sweet. I I remember that, and I was getting teary-eyed thinking about that situation. Um, and I'll speak to that. I think that when you see your partner, it is is and you have to know who you are so you can know who your partner should be. And you have a mission and a purpose in this world. You have people that you know, I I've had people come to me even well, it was after that, but at the time I knew I won't talk about that, but I'll just talk about at that time. At that time, just knowing becoming your girlfriend or being your mate. I understood in the beginning what that meant. Um, I mean, I have pastors and I come from a very religious family, and we have pastors of churches. And leaders and all that stuff. And that's on the you know religion, spiritual side. And my um grandmother and I, and you know, the women were missionaries and things like that. And so they always said, you know, uh there, you have a, you know, you have certain people like in the church called first ladies, right? And the first lady understands that the mission is bigger than her if she's the right first lady, right? So that was just growing up in church and religion and stuff like that. And they would teach us, you know, they would call him the the pastor, the man of God. And he had he would have God's purpose, right? And so God's purpose is for the people. So the woman had to support that. And what I would notice is, you know, church five times a week and all that. And the first ladies always were, you know, just calm. And when you would go in the presence of a first lady, I remember of the church I grew up in, and oh, she was so uh humble, like she would just hold you and touch you, and you just you know, the kids are running around, and she had a different energy than all the mothers in the church and everything, the first lady. And my um grandma explained that to me, you know, that spirit, and it's a understanding um of what that energy was. Yeah, so that was just on the religion side. So I think when I saw you and I saw people come up and say that you saved their lives, people are crying, talking about they saw you on a television one night and they didn't commit suicide.
SPEAKER_11Yeah.
SPEAKER_05Like I'm seeing this. So if even if you don't understand the what source has for you and what's working through you, the woman next to you and her purpose is we're the we're the portals from the spirit to the physical. And and and we have that innate energy, and we're uh we we should be able to recognize that. And and you're you're either a person, a woman's gonna see that in you, and it's either gonna be one way or it's gonna be another way. And it is a big journey, it's not something that's an easy task, but being your woman and your mate, uh, you have to understand that it's bigger than us. Yeah, you know, it's bigger than me. And as long as what you're doing is taking care of us, when it's time for you to take care of others, you know, I can, you know, we can do that. But the thing is, you did such a good job of seeing me. Like you, this is a hundred and something people pulling on you. You're still looking. Where's theatris? Theatrice, you're all right. I'm wandering around looking at how is baby. Is this the halls of mementos?
SPEAKER_06Is this the mementos, baby? Um I'm lost.
SPEAKER_04We underground.
SPEAKER_06I'm on the Where we at? I don't know.
SPEAKER_04We in tunnels and all the all kinds of different stuff.
SPEAKER_05Where are we at? You know, and you're still, you gonna, and you look around, see all right? Where you at? You know, and you made me feel seen the whole time. And I noticed that. Like, I shoot, how's this relationship? We're on a date, and my that person's two blocks down the road, and I'm just sitting here, they don't know where I'm at.
SPEAKER_01Oh man.
SPEAKER_05You're charge, you're leading a charge of tours of people in a whole other country where everything's depending on you. You've got to watch your feet, you've got to watch your back. We've got armed security guards, everything. And I'm a wanderer because I'm like, uh, I'm like in awe of everything. And out of all those people, I mean, you got people coming up to you that are from there, that you know, from Egypt, like, oh my god, forbidden knowledge, you know, and all that stuff. And I'm like, oh, that's wonderful. You want me to take some pictures? And then over there, and I am a picture hoarder, so I'm taking everything. The group none left, Billy's right back, group gone. You're right back next to me. You okay, babe? Not rushing me, nothing, making sure I'm okay. And that alone is when I understood. I'm like, okay, he's a protector. You know, yeah, I mean, he's a and not just of me, of everybody. You were keeping track of everybody there. And then you still found time for me. So it was easy for me to sit back and be like, oh, go on, take a picture. No, he keeps going. Okay, I'll take it. You know what I mean? Because you made me feel that way. Safety.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, you know. I appreciate that.
SPEAKER_05And so, and plus I know your purpose and I support your purpose.
SPEAKER_04Thank you.
SPEAKER_05It's very important.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, yeah, thank you. I appreciate that because that's that's been that's been one of my you know toughest areas is to to be to find somebody that that understands that I'm I'm I'm on a mission, you know. I really am on a mission. And um, and uh and this mission requires a lot of energy. Yeah, you know, a lot of energy. Uh, and everywhere I go, as you've seen now, it doesn't matter where I'm at, yeah, it's gonna happen. I don't care if we're in Jabip, somebody's gonna come up to me and be like, hey, you know, and that's what's happening. Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_05And you did, and that and another thing you said that was your mission, but you also said another thing was your mission, and that moved me. So I don't know if you want to share that, but well, we were um, and you were, you know, you shared with me that, you know, that I also was your mission. And um, and you know, you don't believe people they get to talking that good stuff. You're like, man, Billy, he's smooth. Like, I don't know, he got the deep voice, he's smooth. Oh my God, is this it? One day you were speaking, um, and you shared, because I listened to you speak, and I'm learning more because, like you said, I don't watch all the videos all the time, and I was off social media for a long time, but I still learn about you as you do these speaking engagements. And you had a speaking engagement in California, and you were you were there and you shared your childhood story, and I got a download, and that's when I realized that you know I have my mission too, you know. It's a spiritual global mission as well, and we both have one, but my download was my mission was to love you, and you stated the same for me, but what I realized in that was how to love you, what type of mission that was. And when you love someone and you make it your mission to love them, it changes everything. And what I realized that mission was your inner child and my inner child, and we kept choosing from that inner space, and we finally got lucky, yeah, and now we can care for our inner child, and our and my your mission and our mission is to uh you know provide each other that nurturing we missed when we were younger.
SPEAKER_11Exactly.
SPEAKER_05Like it was the same timeline, like we didn't get that being held and touched and that intimacy, yeah, you know, not beyond sex, you know, and that's something that we both missed, and we both have been on that mission to love each other in that way, each other's inner children. Yeah, and um, it's just it's just been phenomenal. I mean, so much. I mean, what do you say about the fractals and stuff, baby, and the times, and you know, time is just a social construct, there's no such thing as time. Yeah, I will say it was so funny. Like, I know that this isn't our first lifetime together.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_05It isn't, you know, we've we've known each other thousands of years.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, that's how I gotta develop the patience.
SPEAKER_05Oh my gosh, yes, you're so patient. I'm so happy. Oh my gosh. I didn't even know I needed so much patience. But I'm so happy.
SPEAKER_04You know, I'll tell you, to be honest with you, you know, um from what I've been through in my past, and you know, and not talking anything bad, but certain relationships require a certain amount of level of attention. And um if you're not in alignment, there's gonna be this friction that's always there, right? And this contention that just kind of builds up. And I can honestly say today, after everything that I've been through in the past, um, dealing with you is like a walk in the park. All that was like lifting my spiritual patience weights.
SPEAKER_05Oh, I'm so happy.
SPEAKER_04So my patience has been built up. And just you still you get frustrated every now and then. Yeah, of course, yeah. I'm a human being, but I just go back and reflect on my past and I go, oh yeah, this ain't nothing.
SPEAKER_05Oh my God. I'm gonna, you know what, guys, I'm gonna do I'm gonna create some thank you letters and send them all to all of his exes.
SPEAKER_04Oh, please send them all now. Send them all out. They got my patience on 10.
SPEAKER_05Hope you're doing good. Thanks. You know, I'm kidding. I'm kidding, I'm kidding. But thank you. But um, you're so amazing. I love that.
SPEAKER_04You're amazing too, babe. And uh, you know, that's why we're doing the date conscious app.
SPEAKER_05Yeah.
SPEAKER_04We're doing the date conscious app because we want people to make stronger connections. And the app is really focused around building stronger connections, yeah, creating deeper conversations with with your mate and the person that you're dating, or the person that even you're married to.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_04And if you don't have anybody, it's even set up to where you can look and find somebody so you can date conscious, find somebody on your timeline and see if you can start, you know, create that spark that puts you both on the same timeline, or if you're on the same timeline that you can begin to date and figure it out. It doesn't mean that every single match is gonna be made in heaven, right? But at least you're gonna be on an app with people who are speaking the same language, asking the same questions, truth seekers, wisdom seekers, spiritual people, people that are uh empathetic and uh you know looking to help the world and and see a better place, you know, and um yeah, uh I think just put themselves maybe their morals to a higher standard. Uh and so I you know it's not a hundred percent guarantee, but you get a better shot.
SPEAKER_05And I let me tell you something about day conscious. Okay, so you might experience this, I don't know, but I is I've experienced things with Billy Carson that are not normal. Okay. I got contacted by his ex, another ex. Okay.
SPEAKER_01Right, yeah.
SPEAKER_05Slid in my DMs, yeah, and she told me what a wonderful, amazing human he is, and how happy she was to see that he found someone because he deserved it. I mean, this woman, I mean, she's beautiful. I mean, and I because I looked at it, I'm like, ooh, who's this? Yeah, I got I didn't know who it was. This is a very beautiful person, and she told me that I didn't know who she was, you know, and Billy hadn't hadn't mentioned her to me. And she shared with me who she was, and she shared with me why she was contacting me, and she went on to tell me from her experience who this man was. And another thing I'll tell you before when I was manifesting, I said, I need the next man that I'm with, I need the ex to co-sign for it, right?
SPEAKER_04And this was an ex before we before we met the first time.
SPEAKER_05Right. This is an ex before we met the first time.
SPEAKER_04This is an ex before we maybe even met this.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, it was someone before that.
SPEAKER_0415, 16, 17.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, it was a while ago. And so they had experienced, she had experienced him and she shared these things, and that was this that was the stamp of approval. I didn't necessarily need it, but I said, how wonderful of a person do you have to be that a woman that she sees you in love and is that happy for you? Yeah, you know, that so much that she reaches out to the other woman and states, you know, who he is and how he deserves that, and and wishes, gave us well wishes. I've never had that. And it was That was amazing.
SPEAKER_04I was like, huh?
SPEAKER_05Amazing. And I asked him, he said, what that was. And I'm like, oh my gosh, you know, she it wasn't like we became friends or anything like that. She just really wanted to share that with me. And I was like, that is amazing. I mean, this person has gone on with her life, has a relationship, all that stuff. But it was amazing, and you know, and yeah, I definitely took her word for it. And she was absolutely right. I mean, you've been consistent, you've been amazing, and I I'm I'm very happy. But yeah, if you ever get that happened, no, you got a unicorn. I got a unicorn. You know, we're both two little unicorns.
SPEAKER_04That's right. Yeah, I love it. It's been great. Um, you know, this is um what it's all about, and uh it's an we wanted to share our story with everybody. Yeah, you know, a lot of people have been asking, you know, since we started posting ourselves on social media.
SPEAKER_05Yeah.
SPEAKER_04And it was going viral, like you wouldn't believe. Millions of views. Millions of views.
SPEAKER_05You know, I'm new to this.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, yeah, I know. Yeah, yeah. This is you know, this is not your area. You I mean, you don't rely on social media for monetization or capital. Now that you you know you are going to be speaking now and you have a book and things like that coming out, which is phenomenal, and you know, your programs that you have. So there's a need for social media, it's really there. But prior to this, it wasn't your your big thing. I mean, you were off of social media, you know. Um, which also that was kind of important to me too, you know. Yeah. Because I had I in the past I had people kind of, you know, uh kind of living off of my social media presence and trying to, you know, to capitalize off of that. And so the fact that you didn't even really need it, you know, makes me feel like oh, I'm hoping to share and and to, you know, to to show who you are to the world even more. Um because whether I post you on my social media or not, you're still gonna be you.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_04You were you before I met you.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_04So there's nothing I can do to to make you. You already made yourself, you know.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_04And I think that was an important thing for me as well. Finding somebody who's already made themselves and um, you know, no more rescue missions. You know, you can't go on another rescue mission. I just won't do it ever again.
SPEAKER_05But babe, yeah, you rescued me.
SPEAKER_04Well, I mean, you know what I mean.
SPEAKER_05You did.
SPEAKER_04Yeah. No, I mean like Well, you rescued me. I'm talking about emotionally, spiritually, you rescued me too.
SPEAKER_05So this was your last rescue.
SPEAKER_04I'm talking about this is the right type of rescue. Pulling somebody up from a level to get to your level. I'm talking about levels, you know.
SPEAKER_06I understand.
SPEAKER_04But uh, yeah, we know we definitely rescued each other. We found each other and we did it right.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, we did.
SPEAKER_04You know, we didn't just jump right in the sack and I didn't think you were gonna wait.
SPEAKER_05I was like, nah, this man ain't gonna wait. You did good because you know the hips are hiping.
SPEAKER_04I know. And it's real. And by the way, I'm gonna tell them.
SPEAKER_05Don't tell them. You can tell, we're gonna tell them we tell them another time. We tell them.
SPEAKER_04Okay, we're gonna, because I'm gonna show them.
SPEAKER_05It's cornbread, pento beans, yeah.
SPEAKER_04That's that down south. That's that down south.
SPEAKER_05Yes, I'm definitely seven. Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER_04But anyway, um I wanted to be able to go, again, you know, not to not to reiterate too much, but this is what it's all about. Yeah, and this is why this podcast is gonna be so important. This podcast is going to um give people some hope and hopefully some knowledge that you can apply.
SPEAKER_05Yeah.
SPEAKER_04It's not just gonna be a bunch of stories where there's nothing you can figure out how you can apply it to your life, because knowledge is not power, the application of knowledge is power. And until you can apply knowledge, you have nothing. If we sat in this room and devoured 10,000 books of information on self-improvement and relationships, yeah, and we just stayed in this room and had a great relationship, what good has that served the world? Yeah, it only it only becomes powerful when you can actually then share that knowledge in a way that people can then duplicate and apply it to their lives and get a result.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_04And then now you're doing, you know, you're doing the work, you're doing God's work, the universe's work, whatever you want to call it. Yeah, because now you're impacting lives.
SPEAKER_11Yeah.
SPEAKER_04And so I wanted to be able to take all these situations that I've been in and I want to alchemize them and take all that knowledge and turn it into something positive for people.
SPEAKER_05Yeah.
SPEAKER_04Yeah.
SPEAKER_05That's amazing. And you have um honored to be a part of it, you know, honored for what we're doing together. Yeah. Um, you know, uh and you're my non-for-profit. Um can I share with that?
SPEAKER_11Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_05Okay. Well, I'm just gonna share that we have launched uh Nikki's house at Nikki's house. Um I am a survivor, we'll talk about this later. Yeah um, but at another another time, another podcast. And uh we have a non-for-profit which helps uh victims of domestic abuse find transitional homes. I came up with the idea many years ago because my nickname is Nikki, my middle name is Nicole, yeah, and people would always say, go stay at Nikki's house. If you're in trouble or you need somewhere to stay, go stay at Nikki's house. And I wanted to keep that energy, that safe place that people felt when they would come stay at my home. And so we've launched a non-for-profit. Um, we're partnering with the event this year during Domestic Violence Awareness Month. It's uh the masquerade ball through my family office, House Foster. Um, and it's gonna be amazing. It's gonna be in October, and we're gonna honor, and part of the proceeds will go to victims of domestic abuse, and we'll be talking about that more because obviously um dating conscious is being conscious also of who you're dating and who you are in that relationship and what's happening in that relationship and identifying when it's the right relationship, when it's time to go, and when it's time to stay. Um, and that's a that's something very, very big to my heart. Um, very, very um close to my heart, excuse me. Um, and and yeah, so more to come on that. Just wanted to share that in conjunction uh with day conscious and and what we're doing and what our purpose is, is is a lot bigger than a podcast. Yes. Um, we're wanting this to not only improve lives, but possibly save lives for those out there that um don't have a voice.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, and when you told me about this nonprofit and and why and and the story behind it, I got behind it immediately because unfortunately there are a lot of men out there that have been a victim of even on the man's side of domestic abuse.
SPEAKER_05Yeah.
SPEAKER_04Including myself.
SPEAKER_05Yeah.
SPEAKER_04Um that's a story for another podcast, obviously.
SPEAKER_05Story for another podcast.
SPEAKER_04Yeah. And people, how can a big guy like you be well? I mean, I don't want to go to prison. So you take the abuse, you know, physical and verbal. Yeah. But that's another podcast. But what you're doing is so important because that is going to help save lives. Yeah. Literally. Yeah.
SPEAKER_05Yeah. Yeah. And that's what we're that's that's, you know, really the goal right now is improving, saving lives, and um moving in there. But like I said, it's not just focus on that, um, just providing the fairy tales for women that, the fairy tales and men that have been stolen from them and putting them in a position of, you know, um, you know, happiness, joy. I'm I'm still on that. So uh Halloween 2026, the Biltmore Hotel in Los Angeles. Um, more information on that to come.
SPEAKER_04Bridgerton time.
SPEAKER_05Bridgerton time.
SPEAKER_04All right, everyone, thank you for joining us for this very first episode of the Date Conscious Podcast, hosted by Billy Carson, Seatrice Foster.
SPEAKER_05Yes.
SPEAKER_04We'll see you again next time. Peace.
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SPEAKER_03Oh love too fast.
SPEAKER_08I've stayed too long.
SPEAKER_03I've called it love.
SPEAKER_08When love was wrong.
SPEAKER_03Now I know my words.
SPEAKER_08I know my mind.
SPEAKER_03I don't need perfect. I need a line. No more, maybe. No more. If I give you my heart, I'll give it with purpose. Stay conscious. Love with your eyes wide open.
SPEAKER_09Stay conscious.
SPEAKER_03Say what you mean, don't open.
SPEAKER_09Know your heart, know your mind, don't just choose your timeline.
SPEAKER_03Take conscious. Love is better when you know it. Uh uh, I made mistakes. I played it cool. I've lost good love, trying not to lose. I learned that chemistry, incompatibility. I wantin' somebody, and you want them and So what are you looking for?
SPEAKER_10Something real. And what are you ready for?
SPEAKER_03Something real. No more, maybe. No more almost. If we give this a chance, let's give it with purpose. Take conscious. Love with your eyes wide open. Take conscious. Say what you mean, don't hold it.
SPEAKER_09Know your heart, know your mind.
SPEAKER_03Two different roads, one timeline.
SPEAKER_09Take conscious. Love is better when you know it.
SPEAKER_10Know it, know it, knowing Maybe love isn't finding someone.
SPEAKER_03Maybe it's knowing yourself.
SPEAKER_10Maybe timing isn't everything.
SPEAKER_03But it sure is hell, hell.
SPEAKER_10So I know where I'm going.
SPEAKER_03So do I together?
SPEAKER_10Then maybe it's time. Take conscious love with your eyes wide open. Take conscious, no words left unspoken.
SPEAKER_08Know your heart, know your mind. Choose each other. Choose your time. Take conscious. Love is better. And you know it. Know your heart. Take conscious choose your time.